How is Pacquiao a 4 weight class lineal champ?

[Steak]

listen , dumb****.

lineal titles are passed on from beating the previous lineal champion.

the problem arises when a title becomes vacant.

when that happens boxing writers/historians decide which fight is meaningful enough to declare that person the new lineal champion.

where the ring writers and the other boxing writers split off is when ring decided to give their lineal titles for those who unify all 3 belts. the other writers felt it should be just for what was the universally recognized as #1 and #2 in the division.

now go away with this ****** ****.

most boxing writers consider pac the lineal champ at 112. good enough for me.

dont be such a little woman. instead of bitching while trying to defend a fighter you like, it might be nice to actually look into it and see where it came from, which was what I was trying to figure out in the first place.

[baracuda]

the first man and only man to ever do it......pac...

[WhoreUs]

dont be such a little woman. instead of bitching while trying to defend a fighter you like, it might be nice to actually look into it and see where it came from, which was what I was trying to figure out in the first place.

lineage is all different for different people.

some people thought floyd was lineal champion after beating genaro.

other considered floyd lineal champion after beating chico when both were #1 and #2.

it's a matter of opinion.



pacquiao was considered by some as lineal champ for beating sasakul.

ring didn't consider him ring champ but put him #1 at 112.

what's the fucking problem?

[Steak]

lineage is all different for different people.

some people thought floyd was lineal champion after beating genaro.

other considered floyd lineal champion after beating chico when both were #1 and #2.

it's a matter of opinion.



pacquiao was considered by some as lineal champ for beating sasakul.

ring didn't consider him ring champ but put him #1 at 112.

what's the fucking problem?

there is no problem, I wanted to find the origin of the lineal championship and I did, you can trace it back to when Miguel Canto was awarded it by RING Magazine back in the 70s. which was the whole point.

[miron_lang]

Crold had an article on this.


Kelly Pavlik is the lineal middleweight Champion. so if he fights someone and got beaten that someone will become the lineal Champion because he's the man who beat the Champion.

Sasakul's Championship was won through that.


RING and Lineal Champions are 2 different things though most of the time they recognize the same fighter.

[Baits]

there is no problem, I wanted to find the origin of the lineal championship and I did, you can trace it back to when Miguel Canto was awarded it by RING Magazine back in the 70s. which was the whole point.

How can you trace the origin of lineal championships if you stubbornly refer to Ring title records? The Ring title did not exist when Pacquiao won the title at flyweight but the lineal title existed even in The Ring`s absence.

"The first Ring belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey, the second to flyweight champion Pancho Villa. The magazine stopped giving belts to world champions in the 1990s, but began again in 2002 when it launched its new championship policy intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid e first Ring belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey, the second to flyweight champion Pancho Villa. The magazine stopped giving belts to world champions in the 1990s, but began again in 2002 when it launched its new championship policy intended to reward fighters who, by satisfying rigid criteria, can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class., can justify a claim as the true and only world champion in a given weight class."

[tesla_power]

there is no problem, I wanted to find the origin of the lineal championship and I did, you can trace it back to when Miguel Canto was awarded it by RING Magazine back in the 70s. which was the whole point.

The RING title and the lineal title are not the same although most of the RING champions are lineal champions. RING's Jones against Lineal's Erdie is one famous examples. Guess what is the reason for the breakup of RING against lineal... MONEY. Now, RING's champions are more credible against Alphabet belts but they are not without controversies/hypocrisies. So please stop referring to the RING as the the only true lineal champion.

[Chups]

Alright here we go. Pacquiao was a lineal champ at Flyweight. Here's the Link!!

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/fly.htm

[Chups]

anyways it took a while but finally I found you can trace it all the way back to Miguel Canto, who first became the new lineal champ after it being empty. so even though it came a long way with a lot of mess inbetween, somehow it did go in order to making Pacquiao somewhat lineal at the weight.

# Miguel Canto S. (1975 -1979)
# Chan-Hee Park (1979-1980)
# Shoji Oguma (1980-1981)
# Antonio Avelar (1981-1982)
# Prudencio Cardona (1982)
# Freddy Castillo (1982)
# Eleoncio Mercedes(1982-1983)
# Charlie Magri (1983)
# Frank Cedeno (1983-1984)
# Koji Kobayashi (1984)
# Gabriel Bernal (1984)
# Sot Chitalada (1984-1988)
# Yong Kang Kim (1988-1989)
# Sot Chitalada (1989-1991)
# Maungchai Kittikasem (1991-1992)
# Yuri Arbachakov (1992-1997)
# Chatchai Sasakul (1997-1998)
# Manny Pacquiao (1998-1999)
# Medgoen 3K-Battery (1999-2000)
# Malcolm Tunacao (2000-2001)
# Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (2001-2008)
# Daisuke Naito (2008 to date)

[ThunderWolf]

Alright here we go. Pacquiao was a lineal champ at Flyweight. Here's the Link!!


http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/fly.htm