Do you consider JMM as an ATG???

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  • strugler
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    #51
    JMM is just having a good streak.......thanks to GBP..............hes building his resume............aint ATG yet...............HOF definitely

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    • WhoreUs
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      #52
      Originally posted by street bully
      El Terrible would have looked terrible and would lose a thrilling UD. Marquez is a better counter puncher than Barerra, and has more power.
      bull****.

      erik morales kills marquez.

      erik can outbox and outslug marquez.

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      • street bully
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        #53
        Originally posted by Mr._Pink
        not a valid excuse.

        skillswise he's on barrera and morales level.

        resume wise he's not. he caught up a little though.
        I would say he is better skillwise, hence his p4p rank. Resume wise, he is almost there.

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        • WhoreUs
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          #54
          past prime erik morales beat pacquiao.

          prime marquez likes to think he beat pacquiao.

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          • street bully
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            #55
            Originally posted by Mr._Pink
            bull****.

            erik morales kills marquez.

            erik can outbox and outslug marquez.
            Come on man. Out slug probably, but Moralez got outboxed by Barerra.

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            • WhoreUs
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              #56
              Originally posted by street bully
              I would say he is better skillwise, hence his p4p rank. Resume wise, he is almost there.
              he's not better.

              maybe better defense and counterpunching.

              that doesn't make him better skillwise.



              barrera and morales can box and can slug.

              marquez can box.

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              • WhoreUs
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                #57
                Originally posted by street bully
                Come on man. Out slug probably, but Moralez got outboxed by Barerra.
                a barrera several years younger than the one who put marquez on his ass.

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                • loui_ludwig
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                  #58
                  Even if you have JMM beating Pac, it is NO A CLEAR WIN. The fans and media said that it could have gone either way. Morales clearly beat Pac.

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                  • -MAKAVELLI-
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by street bully
                    Come on man. Out slug probably, but Moralez got outboxed by Barerra.


                    El Terrible took JMM's blueprint against PAC and executed it BETTER than the originator


                    Morales lost close decisions in one of the best trilogies of all time...its not like he got schooled or anything

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                    • oldgringo
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                      #60
                      In addition to everything, Morales and Barrera just had signature moments in their careers that elevate them to another level in peoples minds. What the **** has Marquez done that was more badass than Barrera slamming Naseem Hamed's head into the ringpost? What has he done that was more shocking and exciting than Morales turning southy against Pacquiao in the 12th round of their first fight? When did he go to war against an elite opponent when he didn't necessarily need to?

                      Barrera and Morales provided boxing fans with a lot of significant, visceral memories. Moments which were so awesome that they won't soon be forgotten. Those guys are legends in the sport and for good reason. It will be hard for Marquez to overcome that and maybe things aren't totally fair but that's how it is.

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