Comments Thread For: Fury: Wilder Improved, Worked On His Boxing; Fight Was Much Different From First Two

[steeve steel]

No, Wilder didn't learn anything and still sucks. Fury was not as sharp, got careless seeing how the flat bomber was already gazed in the 3rd round, got stunned and that made for a more entertaining fight.

[Outwest Exp 355]

The issues were size for sure but also some flaws in wilder’s boxing like pulling straight back and laying on the ropes, it does t help that he exposes his head while ducking under punches. He allowed himself to adopt a certain way of fighting and his handlers never bothered to keep him learning. I’ve always said that wilder limited himself with his wait to throw a right hand style

Wilders gotten away with pulling straight back because he’s usually the biggest guy in the ring. But Fury’s 6’9” and has long enough arms to get to Wilders chin.

[mjh1969]

Mark Breland was right, Wilder has no real boxing skills. In his 10 defenses he fought and beat tomato cans and it showed. Wilder digressed from his earlier abilities to being a one punch wonder. This fight really exposed Wilder's lack of boxing abilities.

[Robbie Barrett]

Apart from Fury getting caught, it was the same as the 2nd fight.

[Gunitsmith]

I'm not a fan of either fighter. I'm actually glad Fury won to keep the belt from going back to PBC for them to milk for another 5 years. That being said,I dont understand why Wilders team didn't have a defense for Fury laying all over him. I'm not a trainer and don't have the answer. But they had to know Fury would employ that strategy again. He did the exact same thing in the first fight. To not have an answer for it after all that time to prepare is inexcusable.
Basically,Wilder was beaten before he ever stepped in the ring.

As far as Fury being a great heavyweight, I beg to differ. He definitely cheats and punches after his trademark headlock. It may be effective,but it isnt boxing. Watch the first knockdown in round 3. That was as blatant as Sanchez hitting Ajagba while he was on his knees. That Fury is considered great goes to show how depleted boxing is. The ref also did a piss poor job allowing Fury to do it over and over. He should have deducted points or dq'ed him for that junk boxing.
I dont blame Wilder for not shaking his hand after the fight. And I am no Wilder fan. You have to go to YouTube to watch real heavyweight boxing wars.

Other than an old Klitschko and Wilder,who has Fury beaten? Who is there in the hw ranks for him to beat? I give Usyk the best shot,because his team Will have him prepared for Fury's tactics. Usyk is also a lot more ring savvy than Wilder or Joshua. And his will to win will match Fury's. He is going to hit that fat belly on Fury and wear him down for the later rounds. Mark these words,Fury will meet his match. Unless he retires behind his smoke and mirrors "greatness". Peace.

[sportbuddha]

Mark Breland was right, Wilder has no real boxing skills. In his 10 defenses he fought and beat tomato cans and it showed. Wilder digressed from his earlier abilities to being a one punch wonder. This fight really exposed Wilder's lack of boxing abilities.

I agree, I have no malice for Wilder, but this was the very best he has ever looked as a boxer and if you were shown this not knowing him at all, you would not be impressed with his technical skill level. People are saying he showed some punch variation and levels, that’s not great boxing, that’s just boxing. The guy is incapable of defending going backwards, he has no countering game at all which is basically the art of boxing. People talk about AJ being not that good, but he can box, yeah if Wilder hit AJ he’d be spark out, but if AJ hit him he’d probably been in the mortuary because he can also finish with huge punches. Also, I’m suspect about Wilder chin . I always have been, but Fury is not a big puncher, we all know this, and he’s had Wilder down plenty, I reckon his chin is not that great.

I have an even more controversial view on this, great fight as it was to watch, they made each other look good. Fury did not look good at all, he came in and went back in straight lines, his inside work was sloppy, his range was off a lot of the time, he crowded his own punches and then created the space for Wilder to throw into and Wilder just wasn’t sharp enough to counter. Fury’s conditioning was probably similar to his first fight. I know it’s not popular but in the cold light of day there’s a lot to think about and learn from this fight.

[KillaMane26]

I think the weight took steam off his punches....hope if he fights again he doesn't come in heavy again

[lion33lit]

It was different because you couldn’t cheat again this time around. The REF was absolutely GREAT not allowing your patented Orca Lean, rabbit punching & grabbing to take center stage again.

Primarily, you weren’t allowed the use of your open palm compromised glove in this third encounter. Your nationalist Sweet Caroline intentionally blind fan girls will continue to worship at your PEDestal because it’s what they do…..But the fact remains: you’re a shameless cheat.

Congratulations, you arrogant sequoia, you won this one fair & square, but you didn’t give Wilder the chance in the 1st two meetings….you fake arrogant religious nut jobIt’s no wonder he didn’t acknowledge you at the end of the fight, he should have though, because you WILL reap what you sow - you get away with nothing. Regardless of how the guy who always tried to get it right - without cheating - feels.

[Oregonian]

I'm not a fan of either fighter. I'm actually glad Fury won to keep the belt from going back to PBC for them to milk for another 5 years. That being said,I dont understand why Wilders team didn't have a defense for Fury laying all over him. I'm not a trainer and don't have the answer. But they had to know Fury would employ that strategy again. He did the exact same thing in the first fight. To not have an answer for it after all that time to prepare is inexcusable.
Basically,Wilder was beaten before he ever stepped in the ring.

As far as Fury being a great heavyweight, I beg to differ. He definitely cheats and punches after his trademark headlock. It may be effective,but it isnt boxing. Watch the first knockdown in round 3. That was as blatant as Sanchez hitting Ajagba while he was on his knees. That Fury is considered great goes to show how depleted boxing is. The ref also did a piss poor job allowing Fury to do it over and over. He should have deducted points or dq'ed him for that junk boxing.
I dont blame Wilder for not shaking his hand after the fight. And I am no Wilder fan. You have to go to YouTube to watch real heavyweight boxing wars.

Other than an old Klitschko and Wilder,who has Fury beaten? Who is there in the hw ranks for him to beat? I give Usyk the best shot,because his team Will have him prepared for Fury's tactics. Usyk is also a lot more ring savvy than Wilder or Joshua. And his will to win will match Fury's. He is going to hit that fat belly on Fury and wear him down for the later rounds. Mark these words,Fury will meet his match. Unless he retires behind his smoke and mirrors "greatness". Peace.

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How do you rate B-Hop? He was the master of dirty tactics aka Philly style boxing and he’s considered an ATG.
Two, when Fury and Usyk fight and Fury beats him up, will your sentiments about Fury change?

[lion33lit]

just wondering why uppercuts were not apart of his game plan..Fury leans after the jab anticipating the str8 right..how did they never figure that out?

I think Wilder was simply too massed up and tired to throw it…..if he constantly loaded up to throw it - and kept missing(?) it would have made Fury get him out of there faster. The bulk build up Wilder decided to add to his body was ridiculous and very surprising. He was tired from round one….amazing he lasted so long