so is Fury considered a powerful puncher?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #11
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    I thought Furys technique looked a little poor tbh . He wasn’t as sharp and he wasn’t twisted into the shots much it was a lot of arm punching , But at the end of the day he’s still a huge fighter if he hits you right it’s going to hurt ,I think his left hand in southpaw stance is his hardest punch when he uses that angle . Yes he had a great round 11 but it took awhile to get there .
    he damn sho twisted into that last right hand

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      #12
      Originally posted by LarryX....

      he damn sho twisted into that last right hand
      Yep he’d be far more effective doing that regularly,Fury softens guys up first then really plants down on a big shot here and there but he definitely wasn’t as sharp as last time . Wilder is really lucky the ref stopped the fight and the towel was thrown in could have been worse .

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      • deathofaclown
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        #13
        There’s bigger punchers but they still have to have the bravery to push Wilder back and land big shots, or the ability to do it without getting caught.

        If even if you wanna say AJ hits harder, he’s scared to even try impose himself on a Cruiserweight , do you think he’s going to try to put Wilder on the back foot and land bombs? No, he fights scared

        Punch power is an overrated asset. It’s useful.

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          #14
          Originally posted by deathofaclown

          If even if you wanna say AJ hits harder, he’s scared to even try impose himself on a Cruiserweight
          A cruiserweight who is about 20 levels above Wilder in his defensive capabilities and overall boxing skills....

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            #15
            I don't think so, I think Wilder's just got an average chin paired with an above average will to win.

            Fury weighs so much it's difficult to estimate but from posture and position. he's still quite a bit more boxer than puncher. It is still like 90% boxing he's doing. Maybe with all that weight he doesn't need to put anymore of his body into his punches but it shouldn't be hard even with no physics understanding to see Wilder puts more of himself behind his punches than Fury does to get roughly the same effect.

            So I could be wrong, but, I think Fury would have to apply more if he was facing a guy with some serious chin. Wider stances, longer trajectories, harder to actually land shots, and harder to keep balance but there is a reason why Wilder and Marciano launch from so far back. Rocky's is especially absurd but he's not just taking away range from a larger fighter....which is something Wilder should have paid attention to and adapted but did not....but he's also putting everything he can behind his leap ins. So even when he lands on your arm or shoulder, he'll break and has broken them ****s.

            Fury doing some **** like that is surely death to anyone he lands on. Maybe he is in the sweet spot between Rocky and pure boxing for his size. We don't really have comparisons, but I do like to see a little more trajectory.

            In this whole love boxing and hate on punching era we've been in some of the adages people apply to the sport are boxing adages not sport, not puncher's. They say it's the one you didn't see coming. Do you think people don't see Marciano coming? Wilder's cross from across the ring, they didn't see it coming? Punchers work with line of sight too, but, as a puncher ain;t **** they can do about it is just as viable as did not see coming. Fury's definitely packing enough heat for anyone if he's using didn't see coming deliveries. If he wants to go for that they see it but can't do **** about it and they still get ktfo, I think, he'll have to stick with Sugar and pick up more variants for his punches. Mainly, giving up a running away stance for a hold your ground stance. You just hit harder...that's why Wilder, Marciano, Dempsey, and Fitzs all would use extra wide stances to do damage. Were not running, were punching.

            I don't think he hits like shavers or even like Wilder tbh. I think Wilder would fold Wilder like he's nothing if he ever got hit with that kind of power. Would be no getting up. He'd be one of those real bad looking KO's on his reel.

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            • JakeTheBoxer
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              #16
              No. But he is a big strong guy that learned in Kronk gym how to use his weight advantage and reach advantage.

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                #17
                I'll never truly understand ingredients what makes a puncher. But I'm guessing fury is strong and can lift heavywe barbell in deadlift and bench presses.. So that alone with his weight and size you'd think he has ko power.
                But watching his fight when he's landing they don't seem powerful.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 10-10-2021, 03:50 PM.

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                  #18
                  fury is normally an arm puncher like valuev was. some bigger guys are like that. if you notice both fury and valuev had great stamina considering their size. They also probably had decent results growing up not having to put their full body into their shots, because their arm punches would still have a decent effect so formed that as a style. Arm punches dont leave you as exposed for counters so has that benefit as well. Vitali was also an arm puncher but had a heavy cumulative effect. Fury can try to put more into his shots if hes going for the KO which he was with wilder. So even if he is a softer puncher for his size, its still a 280lb heavyweight, so if hes trying its goign to be hard.
                  Last edited by elfag; 10-10-2021, 06:11 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LarryX....

                    he damn sho twisted into that last right hand

                    Yeah after that grazing left and with wilders hands not blocking and him trapped on the ropes, he knew the big shot was there to take and put a lot into that right hand, twisting his body into it. Thats going to be a pretty big shot esp with wilder exhausted and slow to see it coming.

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                    • TMTForever99
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                      #20
                      Fury was fighting a zombie. wilder had no strenght or enregy after six rounds. deontsay's heart kep him gfighting past the 7th round

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