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  • BangEM
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sun_Tzu

    You could be right, I saw a graphic saying Fury would get 50 mill and Wilder 40 mill somewhere yesterday. I dont involve my self in the financials of boxing usually, maybe they are making significantly less.


    Are those in rupees?

    They already gave over half of the tickets away.

    The 2nd fights didn't sell more than 600k PPV buys (they lied that it's 800k).

    So what number do you think this one will sell since it isn't halff as big as the first one?

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    • Toffee
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      #12
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

      Underrated Rivalry.
      It's been fun... but if Fury wins again, as most expect, I don't think it rates at all.

      Draw-Win-Win isn't a great rivalry. And most think it deserved to be a whitewash. It's been marketed ok by two pretty good characters but scratch beneath the surface and get to the actual boxing elements and it's barely a rivalry.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #13
        Originally posted by Toffee

        It's been fun... but if Fury wins again, as most expect, I don't think it rates at all.

        Draw-Win-Win isn't a great rivalry. And most think it deserved to be a whitewash. It's been marketed ok by two pretty good characters but scratch beneath the surface and get to the actual boxing elements and it's barely a rivalry.

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        I just feel as if? In heavyweight boxing, it has been a long time since there has been a rivalry.

        And this is mainly because, soon as somebody loses 'People act like they become obsolete'.

        Or just in general, I think fighters want to not rematch each other these days.

        It has been a genuine rivalry, the way their characters have clashed. I still think the very first face off they had, was one of the most compelling things I have ever seen 'It was deep'.

        Note: I think there is a matey matey culture in the UK as well, Joshua has promoted this 'This week the atmosphere has been totally different to Usyk vs Joshua'. The competition between Fury & Wilder, has been raw and real. I have not in all honestly enjoyed or been engrossed by a rivalry since Haye vs Bellew etc.

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        • Toffee
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          #14
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

          I just feel as if? In heavyweight boxing, it has been a long time since there has been a rivalry.

          And this is mainly because, soon as somebody loses 'People act like they become obsolete'.

          Or just in general, I think fighters want to not rematch each other these days.

          It has been a genuine rivalry, the way their characters have clashed. I still think the very first face off they had, was one of the most compelling things I have ever seen 'It was deep'.

          Note: I think there is a matey matey culture in the UK as well, Joshua has promoted this 'This week the atmosphere has been totally different to Usyk vs Joshua'. The competition between Fury & Wilder, has been raw and real. I have not in all honestly enjoyed or been engrossed by a rivalry since Haye vs Bellew etc.
          Haye Bellew was probably similar in that it was a fun rivalry while it was happening, but didn't really have much below the surface.

          Froch v Groves was good fun, and it was credible at the weight class.

          A Wilder win makes this a more credible rivalry, but I just don't see it. And if Fury sweeps the series today, I don't think the rivalry has any kind of lasting impact.

          The irony is that, as you said, people get written off as soon as they lose nowadays. Whereas it's losses that make great rivalries and produces the kind of fights that define eras and produce legendary fighters.

          We need to start getting these Undisputed fights made. They make perfect sense. You don't drop in value when you lose those fights - you get an even bigger rematch! And potentially improve your legacy by coming back.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Toffee

            Haye Bellew was probably similar in that it was a fun rivalry while it was happening, but didn't really have much below the surface.

            Froch v Groves was good fun, and it was credible at the weight class.

            A Wilder win makes this a more credible rivalry, but I just don't see it. And if Fury sweeps the series today, I don't think the rivalry has any kind of lasting impact.

            The irony is that, as you said, people get written off as soon as they lose nowadays. Whereas it's losses that make great rivalries and produces the kind of fights that define eras and produce legendary fighters.

            We need to start getting these Undisputed fights made. They make perfect sense. You don't drop in value when you lose those fights - you get an even bigger rematch! And potentially improve your legacy by coming back.
            They're the rivalries, I want to see.

            I don't care about the lasting impact, historically or world wide. It is about now, what it means now.

            David Haye vs Tony Bellew was the last real fight, I was really involved in.
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            But that is mainly due to me being a big David Haye supporter, but yes awesome.

            I just think this week, has been great. Between the fighters and teams, no holding back, no matey matey culture, just real raw competition.

            Joshua vs Usyk II, is bigger fight than the first fight 'So yes I agree'.

            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 10-09-2021, 08:48 PM.

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