Comments Thread For: Fury-Wilder III: NSAC Changes Referee, One Judge From Its Original Panel Of Officials

[Bronx23]

This is some bs. Those are Top Rank judges. I score rounds myself whenever I see Weisfeld and Moretti's names on the panel. I don't know what Haymon's doing, but THIS is how you protect your fighter?

Three American judges judging a fight between an American fighter & a guy from the UK. Seems like Wilder has the advantage here.

[JohnnyCan]

Yeah. Seems like a big advantage for Wilder. I’m very surprised Fury is OK with this. Wonder what warranted the switch of one judge and referee. We’ll never know the real reason in all likelihood. Was it at Fury’s request?

[War Room]

Anyboy know the controversey from Patricia Morse Jarman that Mora did?

This is some bs. Those are Top Rank judges. I score rounds myself whenever I see Weisfeld and Moretti's names on the panel. I don't know what Haymon's doing, but THIS is how you protect your fighter?

Haymon is cashing out dude. Wilder is done.

Three American judges judging a fight between an American fighter & a guy from the UK. Seems like Wilder has the advantage here.

Figh fixing has nothing to do with where judges are from. It has to do with who's promoting and Top Rank is known for fixing fights.

[PBR Streetgang]

I doubt it goes the distance so the judge selection is probably moot. Weisfeld and Cheatham are relatively decent but definitely will give the A side the benefit of the doubt. Question is, who is that? I'd probably venture to say Fury at this point.

The referee will have much more impact on this one however...

[1hourRun]

The FIX IS IN!

I agree. This is completely unacceptable, considering the blatant illegal strikes that Tyson has got away with throughout this series, Russell Mora is one ( if not the worst ) officials to be appointed for the trilogy. I suspect Russell Mora was handpicked because Mora accommodates Tyson Fury's dirty-illegal tactics. According to a BleacherReport, Mora's awful performance in Mares vs. Agbeko is ranked #2. in all time worst showing by a referee.

Does a man in this shameful list qualify to be involved in THE HW tittle contest this Saturday? There is not justification to appoint this incompetent crook Russel Mora, especially after all the controversy involved in both fights between Wilder-Fury.

Referee Russel Mora was the first one to be interviewed by Showtime's Jim Gray right after the decision was announced. Gray repeatedly confronted Mora about his decision to not take a point away from Mares for the low blows and particularly about the knockdown in round 11, ending his interview by saying to the ref: "You're way off!"

Here is a recent disgraceful performance by Russell Mora in Devin Haney vs. Jorge Linares, the considerable amount of illegal-rabbit punches by Jorge Linares to Devin is sickening.



There are dark nefarious forces at work against the 'Bronze-Bomber', you could not make this up : Russell Mora was the appointed ref when Nonito Donaire caved Fernando Montiel's face in, does anyone remember that the Gyspy-Bum ALSO left Deontay Wilder with a dent on the left-side of his face, the last time they met? Its like the wicked puppet-masters are playing a cruel joke behind the scenes, and only those that are awaken can see their evil plot.

I am infuriated by the NSAC, what valid reason is there to replace Mike Ortega? A fair fight maybe? The federal government needs to investigate and lock-up this group of weasels.

[Finito2K]

Figh fixing has nothing to do with where judges are from. It has to do with who's promoting and Top Rank is known for fixing fights.

With 55 years under its belt, Top Rank is the longest running promotional outfit in the sport.

Let's see you name 3 fights that Top Rank has actually "fixed".

[War Room]

With 55 years under its belt, Top Rank is the longest running promotional outfit in the sport.

Let's see you name 3 fights that Top Rank has actually "fixed".

It's late here so off the top of my head and rather quickly and I'll beat 3 easily lol --->

1. Pacquiao.Bradley 1 (Manny's contract was up)
2. Pacquiao.Horn (Manny's contract was up)
3. Leonard.Hearns 2
4. Pacquiao.Marquez 1
5. Pacquiao.Marquez 2
6. Stewart.Foreman (Ste***** corners literally tells him to NOT knock Foreman out and he could have if he wanted to)
7. Liston.Ali
8. Shavers.Ali
9. Norton.Ali

Sean Gibbons, a matchmaker recently fired by Arum. In reports published in 1997 by the Oklahoma Department of Labor, which investigated boxing in that state, and by the Miami Herald in 1999, Gibbons has been accused of fixing fights dating back to the early 1990s.

The Oklahoma report named 17 fighters and five associates, including Gibbons, who admitted to or had been accused of fixing fights, faking knockouts and boxing under phony names and credentials.

The report said “young fighters are shamelessly exploited ... cheated out of their earnings ... forced to fight in mismatched bouts

Gibbons, who has been associated with Arum’s Top Rank organization in Las Vegas since 1997, repeatedly has called the allegations “a complete lie.” Arum fired him following the FBI raid.

An Arum spokesman said Gibbons was fired for “transgressions beyond boxing.” He did not specify what they were.

* Half-brothers Andre Smiley and James Calvin Baker. They are among seven heavyweights reported by the Miami Herald as either admitting to or being accused of throwing fights.

The Herald said Smiley and Baker admitted that they faked knockouts in 18 of their combined 36 fights.

In one bout, Baker went down 18 seconds into the first round against Eric “Butterbean” Esch, a 320-pound former wrestler with a cult following in boxing. Esch told the New Orleans Times-Picayune that the knockout, although one of his quickest, was clean. “My fights are not fixed,” he said. “If I knew the guy wouldn’t put up a fight, you think I would be training four hours a day like I do?”

* Two unnamed Top Rank officials. The New York Daily News reported last month that heavyweight Mitchell Rose, 34, said “two white guys from [Arum’s] Top Rank” knocked on his door in 1995 and offered him $5,000 “to take a dive” against Esch in a fight that Dec. 15 at Madison Square Garden.

Rose, who was 1-6, said: “Even if I wanted to throw the fight, I didn’t trust those guys. I wasn’t opening the door.”

Forty-eight seconds into the second round, Rose knocked out Esch, giving him his first defeat after 14 career victories.Rose told the Daily News it also ended his own boxing career. From then on, he said, he was blackballed. He retired 2-8-1. “If you don’t play by the rules, the dirty rules,” he said, “you are all done.”

Esch told the newspaper: “Why would you pay a guy with a 1-6 record to take a dive? I didn’t see anything at Top Rank criminal.”

Agent Gillespie’s affidavit was prepared in October 2000 to seek court approval for an FBI search in Columbia, S.C., at the home of Mitchell, whom Gillespie described as a matchmaker in a number of Melito’s fights.

Other court documents also cite this taped phone conversation between Mitchell and a boxer arranging a fight against Melito:

Mitchell: To do a straight-up fight they’ll pay us $6,000 total.

Boxer: Oh.

Mitchell: They’ll give us the fifteen if we do what ... they want.

Boxer: Okay. I mean what are they gonna want, though?

Mitchell: You just let them win.

Boxer: How many rounds?

Mitchell: Four, five, six.

Boxer: Right.

Mitchell: I mean, they want it to look good.

Boxer: Right.

Mitchell: Fight back some, you know.

This boxer told the FBI he agreed to the deal at first, according to the affidavit, then changed his mind.

The FBI affidavit provides uncommon detail behind alleged arrangements to fix fights. The following accounts are from that court document:

For a fight on March 7, 1997, heavyweight John Carlo, then 35 and 11-0, said Mitchell had promised to pay him $8,000 if he would lose on purpose “by faking a shoulder injury.”

Carlo told the FBI he was prepared to fake the injury, but that “towards the end of the second round, he was hit with a punch that knocked him out.” Carlo “received a check or money order in the mail from Mitchell for approximately $8,000.”

Melito’s next fight was on April 22, 1997, in Columbia against then-40-year-old Eddie Curry, 12-24-2. Curry told the FBI he agreed to lose for $1,500. Curry recalled that Mitchell came to his dressing room just before the fight and reminded him of the deal, saying, “Don’t play me or you won’t get paid.”

However, Curry “was hitting Melito pretty good,” prompting Mitchell to go to Curry’s corner between rounds and say to his trainer, “Tell Eddie -- don’t be no fool.”

In the next round, Curry went down -- and stayed down. Melito was awarded a third-round technical knockout.

After the fight, the affidavit says, Curry was paid “approximately $1,500" by Mitchell, who told him, “You scared the hell out of Melito’s people.”

Bobby Joe Arthurs, of Lancaster, S.C., then 36 and 16-4-3, told the FBI that he agreed to go down in the fourth round of a fight with Melito on Dec. 11, 1997, in Port Chester, N.Y. The original price: $15,000 to $20,000.

Melito won by a technical knockout in two rounds.

After the fight, Arthurs said, he went to a hospital for X-rays and Mitchell showed him “a paper bag filled with cash.” Later, in Arthurs’ hotel room, Mitchell reportedly counted out $10,000 for Arthurs, kept $5,000 as a management fee and promised Arthurs another $5,000 that he never received.

In March 2000, Benito Fernandez, then 33 and 17-8, faced Melito in Yonkers, N.Y. Billy Mitchum, Fernandez’s manager, told the FBI that Mitchell offered Fernandez $5,000 to lose, but the fighter “called Mitchell himself and negotiated the price up to $7,000.”

Melito hit Fernandez “with a good punch” and knocked him out in the first round. Fernandez reportedly got $7,000, less a 30% management fee to Mitchum.

Mitchum also managed Gerald “Jay” Snyder and Samson Cohen. Mitchum said he helped Snyder, then 37 and 18-4, and Cohen, then 39 and 15-10-1, fix a pair of fights in 1998 with Melito in South Carolina, according to the affidavit.

Mitchum told the FBI that Mitchell paid Snyder $7,500 after he went down in the first round of his bout.

In Cohen’s fight, however, the fix apparently was still up in the air when the bell rang for the first round. Mitchell offered Cohen $5,000 “to lose the fight on purpose ... [and] the fight could not go more than three rounds.”

At first Cohen wanted more money and Mitchell “agreed to pay somewhere more than $5,000 and less than $7,500.” Then, in the fight, Cohen failed to go down. As the fourth round ended, not only was Cohen “fighting well against Melito ... he was beating Melito badly.”

Cohen later told the FBI that Mitchell warned his manager between rounds that Cohen would not get paid if he won.

Cohen told the FBI that “he wanted the money,” so his manager informed the referee that Cohen was too tired to continue.

Melito was awarded a fifth-round TKO.

Later, Mitchell confronted Mitchum, saying “Melito’s people were mad that Cohen made Melito look bad, and they didn’t want to pay.” Later, Mitchell reportedly went to Cohen’s dressing room and paid him $6,000, less 30% to his manager.

Attempts to locate or interview the fighters named in the affidavit were unsuccessful.

In one case, the affidavit says, a fighter changed his mind.

Mitchell offered Shelby Gross $8,000 to lose to Melito in 1999 and advanced Gross “an unknown amount of cash,” the affidavit says. At first, Gross agreed, it says, but had second thoughts.

Gross phoned Mitchell, saying he wanted a bigger payoff, the affidavit says -- but secretly recorded the call and gave the tape to the FBI.

The fight never happened.

The affidavit does not say what became of the cash advance.

Times staff writers Greg Krikorian, Steve Springer and Henry Weinstein in Los Angeles and researcher Nona Yates contributed to this report.

Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...ng2-story.html

Additional Source: https://larrybrownsports.com/boxing/...y-fight/140877

Feelin stuipd yet??

[Nightfall]

Arum and his oldschool buddies are trying everything that they can to Fury

[tritium_arma]

Anyboy know the controversey from Patricia Morse Jarman that Mora did?



Haymon is cashing out dude. Wilder is done.



Figh fixing has nothing to do with where judges are from. It has to do with who's promoting and Top Rank is known for fixing fights.

You idiot. You're acting like PBC hasn't had fixes like Fury Wilder 1.

[deathofaclown]

Yeah. Seems like a big advantage for Wilder. I’m very surprised Fury is OK with this. Wonder what warranted the switch of one judge and referee. We’ll never know the real reason in all likelihood. Was it at Fury’s request?

Sometimes it doesn’t matter,

i mean in the first fight, It was the UK judge that gave Wilder the most favourable scorecard.