Mosley Eyes Clottey, Conte Case Moves Forward

[Al Haymon]

I love Shane Mosley's character, he's a real hoonest guy and it's hard to think that he's lying about all this. He would have served some kind of punishment just like evry other athlete if he was really lying.

I hope Mosley goes in there to absolutely destroy Joshua Clottey and hopefully he gets something bigger in 2010.

Shane is lying. He knew what he was taking. It makes no sense for Victor Conte to tell everybody EXCEPT the least famous athlete involved.

Remember, this was also Marion Jones' position for YEARS. Until she had to admit the truth, and ended up serving a prison sentence.

Shane was taking painful injections in his stomach. You don't do that thinking it's normal.

[GRUSTLER]

Shane is lying. He knew what he was taking. It makes no sense for Victor Conte to tell everybody EXCEPT the least famous athlete involved.

Remember, this was also Marion Jones' position for YEARS. Until she had to admit the truth, and ended up serving a prison sentence.

Shane was taking painful injections in his stomach. You don't do that thinking it's normal.

Yeah, if someone wants to stick a needle in your stomach you
normally supposed to ask questions.

[Thread Stealer]

Shane is lying. He knew what he was taking. It makes no sense for Victor Conte to tell everybody EXCEPT the least famous athlete involved.

Remember, this was also Marion Jones' position for YEARS. Until she had to admit the truth, and ended up serving a prison sentence.

Shane was taking painful injections in his stomach. You don't do that thinking it's normal.

You can always be like "don't tell me what it is exactly, but will it make me fail a drug test?" After the answer is that it won't (they don't test for it or it's an undetectable PED), then they can claim "I didn't know it was illegal, they told me it wasn't a banned drug".

[voneric]

I always wondered how Mosely got a free pass on that one when Margarito was blasted for trying to cheat. Margarito May have used illegal wraps in other fights but Mosely was on steriods when he fought DeLaHoya and no one cares. Its also hard to believe all those trainers missed the illegal wraps when their sole jobs are to watch the Process for cheating. When Vargas was caught for being on the juice he was thrown to the wolves and suspended without pay(not sure on the without pay part but it helps my case). Is it because Mosely was smart enough to use a steroid that wasnt detected that no one has punished Mosely for his actions? Is it just because too much time had passed like a statute of limitations to Care? Just because it wasnt detected does not take away from the fact that Shane was indeed on Steroids for a Major Fight and Championship and is prefectly ok. I know i am a little passionate about the subject but for a ***ing reason. I Lost Alot of Money on This Fight. I truely believe that he Shane Gets Suspended and an asterisk gets put next to that fight, Then i have every right to ask for my Money back. It was like 150Dollars of real money so please help in my fight for my money back....oh and about punishing mosely

[worldbestmcotto]

i have a feeling shane isnt looking at this like a "big fight"..i think hes in for a rude awakening..because even if he wins (which i dont see happening)..it wont be easy and will probably suffer some "battle scars" and in result of that he may get old over night in his next fight..but if he loses..he will probably retire because if he loses he has to go back to fighting the luis collazo's luis cruz's of the division, and quite frankly hes to old for that kind of stuff now to try and revive his career.

the fight is scheduled to be in killa Cali rite?? Don't know if the change of trainers will benefit clottey, whether diaz will gameplan to go for the knockout or the gameplan of throwing a lot of punches in hope of stoppage. mosley has the best chin in the game rite cuz of course we all know the last and ONLY time he was knocked down wuz by the viper (rip) .. So u got to factor its in shanes home state and more likely olden boys own raul Caiz is going to judge since they report he's from Texas but actually from Cali. Mosley in ud ...

[TOBYLEE1]

I always wondered how Mosely got a free pass on that one when Margarito was blasted for trying to cheat. Margarito May have used illegal wraps in other fights but Mosely was on steriods when he fought DeLaHoya and no one cares. Its also hard to believe all those trainers missed the illegal wraps when their sole jobs are to watch the Process for cheating. When Vargas was caught for being on the juice he was thrown to the wolves and suspended without pay(not sure on the without pay part but it helps my case). Is it because Mosely was smart enough to use a steroid that wasnt detected that no one has punished Mosely for his actions? Is it just because too much time had passed like a statute of limitations to Care? Just because it wasnt detected does not take away from the fact that Shane was indeed on Steroids for a Major Fight and Championship and is prefectly ok. I know i am a little passionate about the subject but for a ***ing reason. I Lost Alot of Money on This Fight. I truely believe that he Shane Gets Suspended and an asterisk gets put next to that fight, Then i have every right to ask for my Money back. It was like 150Dollars of real money so please help in my fight for my money back....oh and about punishing mosely

The difference between Mosley and Margarito is that Tony going to bring weapons into the ring. That in many states is considered felony assault. Mosley enhanced himself with drugs. Both were cheating but Margo is far worse, just remember Jimmy Resto

[Maidana vs Rios]

Mosley's situation reminds me of a wikipedia article I was reading the other day.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willful_blindness
Willful blindness (sometimes called willful ignorance or contrived ignorance) is a term used in law to describe a situation in which an individual seeks to avoid civil or criminal liability for a wrongful act by intentionally putting himself in a position where he will be unaware of facts which would render him liable. For example, in a number of cases, persons transporting packages containing illegal drugs have asserted that they never asked what the contents of the packages were, and therefore lacked the requisite intent to break the law. Such defenses have not succeeded, as courts have been quick to determine that the defendant should have known what was in the package, and exercised criminal recklessness by failing to find out before delivering it.

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I guess the same thing would apply to Margs "not knowing" that his trainer was putting plaster in his hand wraps.

[voneric]

What about Vargas when he got caught on juice. Luckily Delahoya won that fight but i always wondered what would of happened had Vargas been able to win. I believe that even had Vargas won they would of been Quick to handle the issue and Vargas would of Been given a longer suspension. And even if you say that Margarito was probably using illegal wraps/weapons in every single victory and defeat on his record(excluding Mosely of course), that still does not take away from the Fact that Mosely Was On Steroids durning a Championship Fight with Delahoya without question or arguement. And i know you do not believe this nonsense that Mosely did not know what he was taking. Rafeal Palmeiro and Barry Bonds are more believeable. "I repeat i did not take Steroids" sure did ruin the Career of Palmeiro, so i hope Mosely doesnt make the same mistake on the Stand. Just remember this, My pointing out Margarito is not saying i think both crimes are equal but that both crimes needs to be punished.

[Thread Stealer]

What about Vargas when he got caught on juice. Luckily Delahoya won that fight but i always wondered what would of happened had Vargas been able to win. I believe that even had Vargas won they would of been Quick to handle the issue and Vargas would of Been given a longer suspension. And even if you say that Margarito was probably using illegal wraps/weapons in every single victory and defeat on his record(excluding Mosely of course), that still does not take away from the Fact that Mosely Was On Steroids durning a Championship Fight with Delahoya without question or arguement. And i know you do not believe this nonsense that Mosely did not know what he was taking. Rafeal Palmeiro and Barry Bonds are more believeable. "I repeat i did not take Steroids" sure did ruin the Career of Palmeiro, so i hope Mosely doesnt make the same mistake on the Stand. Just remember this, My pointing out Margarito is not saying i think both crimes are equal but that both crimes needs to be punished.

Mosley has been on the stand before on this subject. He admitted he was instructed to call it flaxseed oil.

It would only take the slighest amount of common sense to know that it was something else.

[Iceta]

Even though the article mentioned Shane's alleged Balco involvement, I'd rather talk about the fight with Clottey. I hope Mosley destroys this cat.