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  • #21
    Originally posted by creekrat77 View Post
    Max Baer killed a guy and it haunted him his entire life
    damn i thought that only happened in the movies

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    • #22
      Tomorrow’s Joe, a Japanese anime covered this real well. The protagonist fought his rival whom he lost to but a punch to the temple killed him. It traumatized him so bad that in future fights, he couldn’t commit a power shot to the temple for fear of killing his opponent again(until he got over his fear finding a new rival). I can imagine real pros go through that same thing

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
        The documentary about Ray Boom Boom Mancini, The Good Son, comprises footage of the meeting and embrace between him and Duk-Koo Kim's son and wife, after many years from Kim's death at the hands of Ray.

        Mancini's another man who was not the same after that event.
        I remember that documentary

        I think Kim said he’ll win or die

        here’s to the power of positivity

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        • #24
          Griffith is another one who felt bad about a dead opponent. The opponent called Griffith a f4g before the fight too

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          • #25
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
            Griffith is another one who felt bad about a dead opponent. The opponent called Griffith a f4g before the fight too
            That opponent would be the Cuban, former two-time welterweight world champion, Benny “Kid” Paret. As something of an irony, another Cuban, HOFer Ultiminio “Sugar” Ramos, killed not one but two fighters in the ring. Goes without saying that boxing is a terribly dangerous sport, something not enough fans get. And there are consequences perhaps worse than death, such as the fate of Prichard Colon and Magomed Abdusalamov — to name just two permanently incapacitated fighters. I’m Facebook friends with Mike Perez. I’ve often wondered how Mago’s fate weighs on him. I have to believe it does, as Mike appears to be a great, sensitive human being.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Smash View Post

              damn i thought that only happened in the movies
              Primo Carnera also killed somebody. Happened a lot more back then.

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              • #27
                A person would have to be a true sociopath not to feel horribly after beating someone to death. Boxing is littered with stories of deaths and the resulting guilt the surviving fighter felt. My dad in his younger days was a bouncer in a pretty famous honky tonk in East Texas. He accidentally killed a guy who according to the story was huge. This was back in the day where they would just break the fight up and go back to drinking. The guy wouldnt stop starting fights and jumped my dad when he was trying to stop him. My dad lived with that until the day he died. He told me there wasnt ten minutes that went by that he didnt think about it. Its not a normal thing for us to kill each other and it takes part of you when you take a life. There is a reason combat vets have the issues they have, PTSD isnt a new thing. They used to call it shell shock, some handle it better than others.
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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
                  A person would have to be a true sociopath not to feel horribly after beating someone to death. Boxing is littered with stories of deaths and the resulting guilt the surviving fighter felt. My dad in his younger days was a bouncer in a pretty famous honky tonk in East Texas. He accidentally killed a guy who according to the story was huge. This was back in the day where they would just break the fight up and go back to drinking. The guy wouldnt stop starting fights and jumped my dad when he was trying to stop him. My dad lived with that until the day he died. He told me there wasnt ten minutes that went by that he didnt think about it. Its not a normal thing for us to kill each other and it takes part of you when you take a life. There is a reason combat vets have the issues they have, PTSD isnt a new thing. They used to call it shell shock, some handle it better than others.
                  It’s an interesting topic

                  makes you question if people dgaf after killing someone who tried to rob them

                  bystanders always have a robber got what they deserved reaction

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                    It’s an interesting topic

                    makes you question if people dgaf after killing someone who tried to rob them

                    bystanders always have a robber got what they deserved reaction
                    Yea, I dont think the circumstances matter to honest for the average person. There are definitely situations where you have to kill someone or they will kill you but speaking just for me it would always affect me.
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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                      I remember that documentary

                      I think Kim said he’ll win or die

                      here’s to the power of positivity
                      That was a good doc. Kim had even made a coffin for Mancini because he and said he would kill him. Mancini still felt really bad.

                      Not of us really knows how we would react if we had to kill another person. Combat vets will tell you that nobody knows how they'll react when bullets start whizzing by too, despite all the training and big talk. In the case of just boxing though, I could def see a lot of guilt. It's a violent sport, but nobody goes in there to kill a guy.

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