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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #21
    I actually agree with John.

    I mean, what should I expect?

    Wilder looked like a complete **** last time and he also fired his own man that saved his life.

    I mean, I don`t live in a fantasy world, I don`t know what do casuals that think Wilder has some chance, smoke.

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    • champion4ever
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      #22
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto

      Wilder: he never knocked me out
      You: where did the extra power come from to not knock him out?

      Fury has stopped 70% of the fighters he has faced. There was nothing unusual in Wilder's corner stopping a fight in which their guy was exhausted and being repeatedly punched in the head. And as I suspect you know, there was nothing on display to suggest an increase in power.
      Yeah, but they were all done with fully padded gloves not with unpadded ones in order to score a TKO victory over Deontay Wilder with his bare knuckle fists which is very dangerous and illegal by the way.

      If I am Deontay Wilder I would postpone the October 9th bout now until Fury is ready to abide by the Marques of Queensberry Rules of boxing.

      That was the reason for all of Deontay's facial fractures and dented skull that he received in their rematch because Tyson cheated by not punching with or through the padded area of the gloves.

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        #23
        People really need to STFU. This is heavyweight boxing. I’ve seen more money lost at this division than any other because punches change lives at this level. May the best man win. There is a reason neither man is taking any shortcuts for this fight.

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          #24
          Originally posted by archiemoore1
          Tyson Fury doesn't have power? 21 ko's out of 30 wins isn't a bad record. That mean 2 out of 3 don't last the distance. The man is 6'9", 270 lbs, has giant hands, excellent technique, and he's a mean mofo. You can't tell me his punches feel good. And don't forget what he just did to Deontay. Just because he licked his neck doesn't mean he was making love to him. He was beating the F..K out of Wilder until Breland stopped it and saved his life. Breland was as compassionate as Eddie Futch was when he stopped Frazier against Ali in Manila in the 14th round. Breland made one of the best judgment calls stopping a fight in boxing history in my opinion. Fury was about to catch that body that Wilder is always talking about catching. Don't tell me Fury can't punch. Maybe another round and definitely two more rounds and this would have been a death fight. Anyone who thinks Deontay was gonna come back in that fight is crazy as hell. He had NO legs, and was out on his feet and it was only what, 7 or 8 rounds? He was a dead man. Everything was landing flush
          OUT ON HIS FEET?

          Look at whats happening a second before the towel is being thrown in...... WILDER is throwing a punch.

          Come on now. No quit in Wilder, never count him out. He said let me go out on my shield and the trainer didnt listen to the man who PAYS HIM

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            #25
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

            You casual, have you ever seen Fury`s KO %?
            Yes we have seen Fury's KO percentage. But let me repeat, HE HAS NO POWER:

            The KO percentages are tricky, cause they include ALL stoppages, that means "RTD" and worst of all, "TKO" and in this case "TKO" is even WORSE because its one of them UK stoppages.

            Fury never knocks people out. Wilder knocks people out. Hughie Fury doesnt knock people out, Povetkin does. Actually i'll make it even better, NO ONE from the Fury family has power, its actually unreal how unlucky a family tree of alleged bare knuckle fighters can be.
            Fury is the only one in the family who is a top guy because of his boxing skills and huge size. Hughie Fury is boring everyone to tears, Tommy Fury going life and death with MMA guys who debut.

            Its just not it!

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Old LefHook
              Fury's choice of trainers is as suspect as Wilder's. Papa John may pluck a basket of eyeballs if corners brawl.
              What ?

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                #27
                Originally posted by FinlandsFinest

                OUT ON HIS FEET?

                Look at whats happening a second before the towel is being thrown in...... WILDER is throwing a punch.

                Come on now. No quit in Wilder, never count him out. He said let me go out on my shield and the trainer didnt listen to the man who PAYS HIM
                A trainer should only care about the safety of the fighter, not who pays him, or always doing what the fighter wants. When his fighter has no legs and is taking flush punches and is defenseless, he should stop the fight. Im glad u aren't a trainer. U would get ur fighter killed with that logic
                Last edited by archiemoore1; 10-05-2021, 09:09 AM.

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                • archiemoore1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by FinlandsFinest

                  Yes we have seen Fury's KO percentage. But let me repeat, HE HAS NO POWER:

                  The KO percentages are tricky, cause they include ALL stoppages, that means "RTD" and worst of all, "TKO" and in this case "TKO" is even WORSE because its one of them UK stoppages.

                  Fury never knocks people out. Wilder knocks people out. Hughie Fury doesnt knock people out, Povetkin does. Actually i'll make it even better, NO ONE from the Fury family has power, its actually unreal how unlucky a family tree of alleged bare knuckle fighters can be.
                  Fury is the only one in the family who is a top guy because of his boxing skills and huge size. Hughie Fury is boring everyone to tears, Tommy Fury going life and death with MMA guys who debut.

                  Its just not it!
                  U don't know sh.t about boxing. 270 pounds and excellent technique means he punches hard. Let him hit u with a shot and see what happens to you. Flowers, dark suits and sunglasses, and soft music playing in the background

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    John may be onto something. If Fury is allowed to punch Wilder in the face again with his bare knuckle fists with those custom made Paffen gloves then Deontay doesn't stand a chance.

                    I mean one doesn't generate that type pf punching power overnight unless there is some type of dodgy and fraudulent activity involved. Also, there is the potential abuse of PEDS and steroids in Tyson Fury's system as well.

                    This only goes to show the level and the amount of respect that Tyson Fury has for Deontay Wilder. He knows that he has to cheat just in order to defeat him.

                    He has never been able to generate that kind of punching power over any of his previous opponents before Deontay Wilder; Which I find very odd and unique.

                    This also leads me to believe that there is something very fishy, su****ious and curious as to where this new found power of his has come from.
                    Fury is punching with better technique under Sugar Hill. Sugar Hill also previously trained Adonis Superman Stevenson. He was one of the best punchers u ever saw. Kronk gym has a history of training guys to be punchers, most notably Thomas Hitman Hearns and Gerald McClellan but the were many others. Boxing is a truly a science, and when you find a real teacher, it makes a big difference. In the UK u have many coaches, but very few real teachers of the sweet science of boxing. Sugar Hill improved Fury's technique To the point that people think its magic, drugs or cheating with gloves. Deontay even thinks it was some Juju, roots, or voodoo. That how fu....g hard Fury hit him.

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                    • champion4ever
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by archiemoore1

                      Fury is punching with better technique under Sugar Hill. Sugar Hill also previously trained Adonis Superman Stevenson. He was one of the best punchers u ever saw. Kronk gym has a history of training guys to be punchers, most notably Thomas Hitman Hearns and Gerald McClellan but the were many others. Boxing is a truly a science, and when you find a real teacher, it makes a big difference. In the UK u have many coaches, but very few real teachers of the sweet science of boxing. Sugar Hill improved Fury's technique To the point that people think its magic, drugs or cheating with gloves. Deontay even thinks it was some Juju, roots, or voodoo. That how fu....g hard Fury hit him.
                      Then how do you explain Wilder's injuries; The facial fractures and the skull indentation? I'll tell you how. Fury was punching Wilder with his bare knuckle fists through non padded gloves and got away with it without being punished for it and he is going to do it again.Which is why i am not watching the fight.

                      The fix is already in and Wilder is being set up to fail. I guess, If you are a white supremacist, racist or a Brit, then you were very happy with that result that night even though Tyson Fury cheated by maiming and committing great bodily harm upon his opponent through dishonest means.

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