Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Proclaims He's 'Rejuvenated, Reinvented' For Tyson Fury Fight

[davefromvancouv]

If Wilder beats Fury..
Why would Wilder fight Whyte for the WBC mandatory?
When he would already have the WBC Belt
Smh

You're kidding right?

Whyte will BE the WBC mandatory.

[Oregonian]

Ali also never had a rematch with George Foreman. If he had, do you think the rope-a-dope would have worked? No. Foreman would have paced himself better and Ali probably would have gotten knocked out.

Wilder matched Ali's 10 title defenses.
Wilder hits a lot harder than Ali and all it takes is one solid punch from Wilder to knock you out. He already did it twice to Fury, and those were just glancing blows. Wilder is going to be hitting Fury a lot cleaner in the trilogy, and Fury is going to get up each time until he doesn't.

Then we'll chat. Don't go running...

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Yet again, you expose yourself with your limited knowledge about boxing.
Ali was going to give Big George a rematch, talks had begun about it, and then George lost a discretionary fight to Jimmy Young, and retired.

So your could have should have sceneraios are all wishful thinking but I’ll be here next week

[Airborne]

Rejuvenated, reinvented? So in other words the fighter he's always been is not good enough?! I think it will be the same old wilder! Maybe he'll have a reinvented excuse!

[davefromvancouv]

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Yet again, you expose yourself with your limited knowledge about boxing.
Ali was going to give Big George a rematch, talks had begun about it, and then George lost a discretionary fight to Jimmy Young, and retired.

So your could have should have sceneraios are all wishful thinking but I’ll be here next week

You need to re-read what I said.

I said they never fought a second time. I made no mention of why.

[Oldskoolg]

He can have all the power he wants, if Fury is mauling him again, he won't have any time or space to use it. If his power if what he's depending on then he lost already. And in the 2nd fight, he looked weaker than usual even before Fury almost started to kill him

The first part of your statement had absolutely nothing to do with what I said. The second part….you have a point, it didn’t look like wilder at all…hmmmm I wonder why…..

[Monty Fisto]

I see a lot of people who want wilder to lose claiming his age is coming up on him. I understand you lot want him to lose but anyone who knows boxing knows power is the last thing to go on a puncher. At 36 he is a total athletic freak of nature and one who has remained fresh….he doesn’t get overweight, doesn’t go on drunken binges, and has literally only taken one beating. His age won’t matter and yes he will still have his power but the problem is he shouldn’t ever again attempt to rely on only his power as he has been doing

It depends where and how the puncher generates their power. It is certainly true that Foreman retained his knockout power late into his career and you may be entirely right that Wilder still has his. The best evidence we have to go on, however, is his most recent fight. A year and a half ago Wilder looked like he was lacking something physically. As he himself said, his legs were weak and the whole world could see he looked exhausted by the third round.

You say his age won't matter. I don't know, but I have a su****ion from the last fight that he was starting to feel his age. He is a long-limbed, athletic fighter who generates his power like a whip or like a golfer swinging a club. A lot of that comes from the hips and the legs. If those legs start to feel drained, he will find it harder to generate the power. It is not unreasonable to think that closing in on 36 the legs start to feel drained earlier in a fight than at 33 or 34.

In the world of football, Cristiano Ronaldo is 36 and is also an athletic freak, capable of running as fast as men in their prime still in his late mid 30s and competing at the highest level. Similar story with Nadal in tennis, and a couple of years ago it was where Roger Federer was at. But at that age you are always on a knife's edge where almost overnight you go from elite athlete to the other side of the hill. As I say I don't know, but Wilder is certainly in the age bracket where this is like damocles' sword dangling over his head.

[Monty Fisto]

No. Fury has been the lineal champion since he beat Klitschko in 2015, who became lineal champion during his 11 year reign after Vitali retired and he beat #2 Kubrat Pulev in 2014.

The new Wilder lineage starts October 9th after he pummels Fury...

Your logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Fury took a break from boxing that lasted the better part of three years. Anyone sensible would acknowledge his lineage ended with that break. If you contend a lineal champ's lineage resumes if they return to the ring unbeaten, then your claim that Klitschko's 11-year reign began after Vitali retired makes no sense, as Vitali returned to the ring during that time. Why didn't Vitali become the lineal champ as soon as he stepped back into the ring?

We don't really have a lineal champ at the moment. Usyk has a good a claim on it as Fury and it would take the winner of Fury/Wilder to face Usyk to truly crown the king of the division.

[davefromvancouv]

Your logic doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Fury took a break from boxing that lasted the better part of three years. Anyone sensible would acknowledge his lineage ended with that break. If you contend a lineal champ's lineage resumes if they return to the ring unbeaten, then your claim that Klitschko's 11-year reign began after Vitali retired makes no sense, as Vitali returned to the ring during that time. Why didn't Vitali become the lineal champ as soon as he stepped back into the ring?

We don't really have a lineal champ at the moment. Usyk has a good a claim on it as Fury and it would take the winner of Fury/Wilder to face Usyk to truly crown the king of the division.

The lineal title is a mythical title: you have to beat the man to become the man and you can only lose the title in the ring or retire (for good). Obviously that's not the case with Fury...

After Lennox Lewis beat Vitali Klitschko and retired, the consensus #1 and #2 needed to fight to create a new lineage.

Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko were #1 and #2 and understandably refused to fight. Once Vitali retired, Wladimir fought #2 Pulev during his 11 year reign to establish the new lineage.

Then Fury beat him, went on a temporary hiatus and defended his lineal title 6 times when he came back. Nobody's beaten him. Yet. That will change on October 9th...

[Ganondorf]

Is it me or Fury have never look like a very good boxer. Hé is slow, sloppy, not a good physic, no muscle legs, no chin (got put down by cunningham a 6'-2", 210 pnder). No abs muscle. How the **** is he considered favorite over Wilder? nitramazaid@hotmail.com

Because he has pretty much dominated Wilder twice in the past….

[Oregonian]

You need to re-read what I said.

I said they never fought a second time. I made no mention of why.

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I guess we’ll talk next week. I’m hoping you are in no way comparing Wilder to the great Ali.