Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder Proclaims He's 'Rejuvenated, Reinvented' For Tyson Fury Fight

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  • earl_grey
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    #51
    Well, that’s what I’d expect him (or anyone coming off a loss) to say. No big news here…

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    • Oldskoolg
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      #52
      There’s no such thing as lineal champions at heavyweight. The line was broken when Rocky Marciano retired undefeated. Even if it had continued, Lennox Lewis retired as well.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Monty Fisto

        It depends where and how the puncher generates their power. It is certainly true that Foreman retained his knockout power late into his career and you may be entirely right that Wilder still has his. The best evidence we have to go on, however, is his most recent fight. A year and a half ago Wilder looked like he was lacking something physically. As he himself said, his legs were weak and the whole world could see he looked exhausted by the third round.

        You say his age won't matter. I don't know, but I have a su****ion from the last fight that he was starting to feel his age. He is a long-limbed, athletic fighter who generates his power like a whip or like a golfer swinging a club. A lot of that comes from the hips and the legs. If those legs start to feel drained, he will find it harder to generate the power. It is not unreasonable to think that closing in on 36 the legs start to feel drained earlier in a fight than at 33 or 34.

        In the world of football, Cristiano Ronaldo is 36 and is also an athletic freak, capable of running as fast as men in their prime still in his late mid 30s and competing at the highest level. Similar story with Nadal in tennis, and a couple of years ago it was where Roger Federer was at. But at that age you are always on a knife's edge where almost overnight you go from elite athlete to the other side of the hill. As I say I don't know, but Wilder is certainly in the age bracket where this is like damocles' sword dangling over his head.
        Tyson fury had a solid chin and like Holyfield he has amazing powers of recovery when he is hurt. Two fights ago Tyson fury rose at the count of 9 from the worst knockdown of his career. Power doesn’t vanish in one fight. Tactics will define who wins this fight….if wilder can let his hands go in combination if he can be aggressive rather than passive abs reactive and if Tyson continues to use his size to bully wilder

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          #54
          Originally posted by davefromvancouv

          You're kidding right?

          Whyte will BE the WBC mandatory.
          Are you dumb?
          Whyte is already the WBC Mandatory
          Wilder fighting Whyte would be for the WBC Championship Belt
          They won't fight for the WBC Mandatory like your post previously stated
          Smh

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            #55
            Originally posted by martin_1995
            Is it me or Fury have never look like a very good boxer. Hé is slow, sloppy, not a good physic, no muscle legs, no chin (got put down by cunningham a 6'-2", 210 pnder). No abs muscle. How the **** is he considered favorite over Wilder? nitramazaid@hotmail.com
            Fury is a better boxer than Wider. I like the odds though so i put $$ on Wilder. With AJ losing and having a rematch obligation it seems Fury and Wilder would be best served fighting a 4th time

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              #56
              Yeah yeah

              just like you were going to nail him to the canvas last time

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                #57
                Originally posted by NYG
                Why are people so sure that Wilder still has his power at 36 coming off a beating over a year ago? He hit Fury a few times in the 2nd fight and didn't do ****
                well they say power is the last thing to go.

                I’m sure he can still punch but Fury sapped all his power after 2 rounds.

                But anyway, if anyone believes all Wilder’s talk and buys into it, I’d urge them to watch the press conferences before the last fight, he said all the same things and got battered around the ring.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                  I see a lot of people who want wilder to lose claiming his age is coming up on him. I understand you lot want him to lose but anyone who knows boxing knows power is the last thing to go on a puncher. At 36 he is a total athletic freak of nature and one who has remained fresh….he doesn’t get overweight, doesn’t go on drunken binges, and has literally only taken one beating. His age won’t matter and yes he will still have his power but the problem is he shouldn’t ever again attempt to rely on only his power as he has been doing
                  Age matters still though...not because his body is ageing or anything, but the brain and habits.

                  The guy is 36 can only fight one way, only ever relied on power in a pro carer of about 13 years. He’s not suddenly going to be something he’s never been. His flaws should’ve been addressed when he was 23, not 36. It’s too late for it, Too many deeply developed aspects of muscle memory and neurological pathways to change it now. So age does matter when you need to change your whole approach.

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                  • davefromvancouv
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    I guess we’ll talk next week. I’m hoping you are in no way comparing Wilder to the great Ali.
                    Wilder hits a lot harder than Ali did. Saying that he matched Ali's 10 title defenses is an accomplishment, not a comparison.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by greeneye99
                      Are you dumb?
                      Whyte is already the WBC Mandatory
                      Wilder fighting Whyte would be for the WBC Championship Belt
                      They won't fight for the WBC Mandatory like your post previously stated
                      Smh
                      Unbelievable. Obviously Wilder would be WBC champion after beating Fury, so he would be fighting Whyte to SATISFY his WBC mandatory. Context...there was a progression there. Saying "for the" instead of "for HIS" shouldn't have thrown you off...

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