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  • SteveM
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    #11
    Originally posted by Greenfield02
    So because you can get the product at GNC, that makes it ok..... Is that right Sarah Lee? The excuses for the bread boy is laughable. What Wonder bread is not telling you, or mentioning, is that Canelo is one of a very small number of boxers who actually are even enrolled in VADA through the whole year, not one fight or one month, but the whole year; Plant, Crawford, Spence and a ton of other fighters are not. A bunch of fighters like to criticize from the outside, but when it comes to actually getting tested all year all of sudden their hiding in the corner.....
    As I understand it, it is not clear if Canelo is still signed up for year round VADA testing. He signed up for the 1st year after his positive test but that was how long ago? 3/4 years ago? If you have a link stating he is still signed up please post it and much appreciated.

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    • Dncertbe
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      #12
      An ATG Is a fighter who beats other prime fighters or beat fighters on the way up not on the way down or on the way out you have a lot of great fighters who beat fighters who were not at their best the night of the fight.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #13
        Originally posted by SteveM

        As I understand it, it is not clear if Canelo is still signed up for year round VADA testing. He signed up for the 1st year after his positive test but that was how long ago? 3/4 years ago? If you have a link stating he is still signed up please post it and much appreciated.
        It is not clear?! LMAO. What “signing” is needed?! Fact: CANELO IS THE ONLY boxer who’s had the most fights since Smith. Canelo had to do VADA and prepare for Smitb, so how many months has that been? We’re going into November. Canelo had to do VADA since November of last year.

        so from November to November, 12 months, is that a year? Some boxing fans have poor comprehension…

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        • wrecksracer
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          #14
          Originally posted by buge

          Every era is called weak for heavyweights.

          Fury has won big fights - he beat long-reigning Wlad Klitschko who hadn't lost in over 10 years including 18 title defenses, and also beat long-reigning undefeated Wilder who had 9 or 10 defenses of his belt. I wouldn't put Fury in an ATG resume discussion, but he has the size & skills to be in an ATG fighter discussion.
          70's wasn't weak. Nor was the 90s. Fury has 2 good wins: a past his best Klit, and a never was that great Wilder. I like the guy. Maybe if he can unify we can start calling him HOF. ATG? Well, he would have some work to do.

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          • Jab jab boom
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            #15
            his biggest rival and his team, Tested Canelo outside of the normal window of 8 weeks. They were set to fight in May and he was tested in February and just so coincidently he tested positive! Really! How about you guys ask Tom Loeffler, Abel Sanchez and GGG, why they tested Canelo early.

            this is what canelo fans refuse to acknowledge. Canelo was tested the furthest out from a fight he was ever tested and it was also the first time vada travelled to Mexico to test him. How much of a gullible nut guzzling canelo fan do you have to be to believe that this was all just a coincidence?

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            • SweetPbfAli
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              #16
              Originally posted by Greenfield02
              So because you can get the product at GNC, that makes it ok..... Is that right Sarah Lee? The excuses for the bread boy is laughable. What Wonder bread is not telling you, or mentioning, is that Canelo is one of a very small number of boxers who actually are even enrolled in VADA through the whole year, not one fight or one month, but the whole year; Plant, Crawford, Spence and a ton of other fighters are not. A bunch of fighters like to criticize from the outside, but when it comes to actually getting tested all year all of sudden their hiding in the corner.....
              To be fair, he said more plausible, not that it was true or that he believed it. It's like people decide in their minds what they want to read.

              The skepticism around Canelo and the short notice fights outside of the testing windows is valid. I say this and I very much like Canelo as a fighter and personality but nobody is above reproach.

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              • Liondw
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                #17
                I'm sorry, you can't compare today's heavyweights to Ali, or to to the other top era's.

                Interesting about GGG vs Mayweather question. I think Floyd could and would win a hypothetical fight. Golovkin is straight up and down, as Floyd said, and it's hard to hit Mayweather.

                Fury-Wilder 3, I too have a funny feeling that Wilder is going to knock him out, but we'll see.

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                • ShoulderRoll
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SteveM

                  As I understand it, it is not clear if Canelo is still signed up for year round VADA testing. He signed up for the 1st year after his positive test but that was how long ago? 3/4 years ago? If you have a link stating he is still signed up please post it and much appreciated.
                  Canelo just did VADA testing for 3 training camps in 5 months. And he's doing VADA again for the Caleb Plant fight.

                  He is by far more tested and proven clean than any other name fighter outside of Nonito Donaire.

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                  • Greenfield02
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SteveM

                    As I understand it, it is not clear if Canelo is still signed up for year round VADA testing. He signed up for the 1st year after his positive test but that was how long ago? 3/4 years ago? If you have a link stating he is still signed up please post it and much appreciated.
                    It's very clear, VADA was conducted in Canelo's fight against Saunders, Yildrim, Smith, and now with Plant. It's very clear, you can look it up yourself. As a matter of fact, Canelo is the only fighter on the P4P list who's last 7 fights have gone through this testing, the only one on the list who's even close is Fury who has 3 under VADA, Crawford enrolled one year and dropped out, Spence never involved, Lopez just enrolled last year, Usyk is not in it, Inoue not in, Estrada not in. And there's a difference between doing it for a fight and being enrolled throughout the year, I believe only Fury and Canelo are the only ones on the P4P list who do it year round. Point is here by no means do I know if Canelo was intentionally doing anything, what I do know is that since then he's the only fighter actively being tested, and if it was a mistake, he's making sure it doesn't happen again and trying to have something prove he's a clean fighter, which is a lot more than these other guys barking from the outside, but not putting their money where their mouth is, that's all.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      Canelo just did VADA testing for 3 training camps in 5 months. And he's doing VADA again for the Caleb Plant fight.

                      He is by far more tested and proven clean than any other name fighter outside of Nonito Donaire.
                      Those guys are trolling hate. That SteveM guy liked what SweetPbfAli said. At the end of the day, these guys including Bread won’t acknowledge that Canelo is about to complete one FULL YEAR of testing. Thats Even greater than what Donaire did. Fighting twice a year doing 365 it’s technically inferior than 4 fights in a year doing VADA. It would take some time for all these haters, after scratching their heads, to realize that there’s limited RANDOM testing if you’re doing more fights in a year… lol.

                      Breadman is a hater. His mailbags are simply made for the haters. I find it all amusing tbh. Bitter LDBC purple slurpers upset that a black man isn’t repping the game as #1. Let’s just be honest. Floyd’s gone, Bud was bumped off… let others shine ffs. It’s not the NBA..

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