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  • #51
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

    Very Interesting analysis... I have a unique perspective here in the States having grown up, a minority (A white guy) in East Harlem, most of the kids I grew up with were Puerto Rican, or Black. I say this because, something one from a hood like East Harlem cannot help noticing is the lack of brutality you often see in British fighters. Not in the ring per se...but the way they speak and conduct themselves. I always get a feeling like there is a fragility there... again, this is perception, not reality. I also must say that Whyte and Chisora, seem the exception regarding this perception. It is probably why I have always liked those two...

    There is no question in my mind that however one frames the issue with AJ, he would benefit immeasuraby being in a boxing gym, with a trainer like Don Turner, in America. Lewis benefitted from this for many of the very same reasons. When I think of AJ in my schoolyard days, he would have to be a killer the way he walks around lol... He just presents as soft... lol. Not so much for Chisora or Whyte... different mentality entirely.

    I don't claim to know what it is about AJ... But whatever you are picking up on your radar, I am picking up on as well. Killer instinct. Killer instinct is the reason IMO Klitsko was never a GOAT. It was something Lewis seemes to artificially develop later in his career (the Michael Grant fight for example) that elevated him. AJ would benefit from it immeasurably IMO.
    - -Lewie the Brit no Brits loved because he grew up Canadian with a Canadian accent?

    The same Lewie who can't hold AJ's jock, never defending his unified titles and then ducking the Ks, losing out on his biggest purses to retire prematurely because his mommy say she won't allow him to fight the Ks?

    AJ and the Ks have some of the best hvy records in boxing history as well as some of the highest KO% in all of boxing history, but of course what U know about boxing would fit on the top of U PhD U rolled up into Dunce Cap for safe keeping...

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    • #52
      We are watching this mfer go through all the stages of grief. Kind of sad the dumb mfer doesnt know to keep it to himself.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by BangEM View Post
        I know Mayorga was weird but has there been anyone as weird as AJ?

        The guy does everything boxers at the level he's at don't do. Or does the guy have mental issues?

        As long as his opponent doesn't disrespect him because he thinks he's Al Capone in his head, he struggles to maintain a straight face without laughing and hugging boxers trying to take his head off and everything he has. And whenever he loses, he's still out there smiling.

        Boxers are told not to box with a boxer and hook with a hooker. But only AJ goes into the ring trying to outbox a boxer and hook with a hooker.

        Rather than be himself - he's the only boxer I know who always want to outdo the flavour of the week. 1). Wilder sparked Breazeale by pawing his left and swinging his windmill right. Not to be outdone by Wilder due to the buzz it created - he decided to try the same thing against a fat Mexican with granite chin. Tried it the first time and Ruiz ate it. Then tried it the 2nd time and got ffcked up. 2). Before his last fight, everyone was calling Usyk a master boxer. Not to be outdone, AJ decided to outbox the guy.

        Insanity is when you keep doing the same thing while expecting a different result. AJ is the only boxer that expects a different result from doing the same thing. The same amateur coaching team in an amateur setup. And the same greedy promoter who doesn't care about him apart from the money he generates and one that won't mind sending him to the ring even if he's not 100% fit as long as there's a rematch clause he can benefit immensely from. Frank Warren is everything in the world but he's never afraid to pull out of a fight if his fighter isn't fully fit.

        AJ is a middle class white guy in a black man's body (I say this because I know him) and he's more comfortable around white and mixed race people than black people. However, somehow still end up with brain malfunction whereby he can make weird offhand racial comments. But in reality, that's not him - he's a tanned middle class white geezer. I was raised around black people and I don't know one that acts like AJ and that feels more comfortable around other races than his own race.
        Yeah good call on Mayorga.

        Other weird m**********rs that come to mind are Golota, and Victor Ortiz.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Sun_Tzu View Post
          We are watching this mfer go through all the stages of grief. Kind of sad the dumb mfer doesnt know to keep it to himself.
          Getting upset never reversed the outcome so why let it eat him up ?

          It happened (again) and he's dealing with it the best way for him.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by BangEM View Post

            Being raised in those areas build character and nothing would scare you most times. They’re like gladiator schools.

            Fighting from a young age has helped a guy like Fury in the ring. It’s cultural for him as a traveller and they have to go through that boot camp, fighting outside caravans with bare knuckles. And today, Fury knows when to switch it up and turn it into fighting with rough house tactics whenever he’s getting outboxed.

            I think with Usyk, he gets uncomfortable when you put it on him. The Briedis fight is a good example. Briedis roughed him up. And he was also very uncomfortable and off rhythm against Chisora until Chisora started blowing air out of arse.
            Well there’s definitely something to it, upbringing or character

            Kevin Barry said he feels one of the reasons Parker lost to Whyte is because Parker has never been in a fight outside of a boxing ring and Whyte has. Obviously it’s not the only reason or main reason but he’s obviously just saying he lacked a bit of toughness because he’s never really been that way.

            I’m not sure it’s something you can ever manufacture or get back if you lose it. I don’t know AJ’s upbringing or what kind of kid he was before boxing, obviously he was selling drugs but plenty of nerds do that too. I think he probably had a level of toughness about him get into a boxing gym and find success, but that seems long gone right now. I don’t think that ever comes back.

            That’s why when I say he lacks balls, well that’s obviously not true because he’s still got balls of steel compared to 99.999% people that would never step in ring, but purely in context of boxing, there’s something really lacking. It’s all to nice, too clean and it spills over into his boxing now too, not unlike Joseph Parker I suppose. But I think Parker was always that. It seems AJ has become that over time.
            Last edited by deathofaclown; 10-02-2021, 04:45 AM.
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            • #56
              You're looking too deep into it. The guy is a UK Hype job that only got attention because he has a bodybuilder physique. Nothing more nothing less.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
                You're looking too deep into it. The guy is a UK Hype job that only got attention because he has a bodybuilder physique. Nothing more nothing less.
                - -Unified broken titles and gave the great HOF champion a chance to win back his belts, you know, the rematch Blubber Fury ducked out on and still with zero title defenses.

                Record earnings with "The People" packing huge stadiums just to see him in person.

                U that DooDooology guy on that other website?

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                  Should AJ train in America and learn how to fight black from the brothers?
                  Seeing as how he really said that in the original post this is the ONLY comment that shouldve been made in reply to it. The O.P. has some serious brain farts but this one is up there.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by 1NST4L3FT View Post

                    lmao I was just thinking this the other day, I was talking to my dad about AJ and how he acts before and after a fight, I remember saying to him, man AJ acts white as ffck like does this guy even have any black friends lol. Dillian is right AJ is a f****ing bizarre guy man..

                    AJ puts on the best shows I've ever seen in my life.. his entrances are insanely awesome and hes an awesome fighter (when he wants to be) but he's weird as hell.
                    Because being polite and respectful = acting white?
                    Last edited by RoadOfTheGypsy; 10-02-2021, 06:14 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Get em up View Post

                      Seeing as how he really said that in the original post this is the ONLY comment that shouldve been made in reply to it. The O.P. has some serious brain farts but this one is up there.
                      You wouldn’t know what brain fart is if I were to cave yer head in with it, you complete helmet.

                      If you have nothing intelligent to add to a thread - why not piss off and ignore it? Some of you get too brave behind yer keyboard but you won’t in this lifetime or the next walk up to me and say this to my face. That would be the last time you’d ever do that. Suck yer nan!
                      Last edited by BangEM; 10-02-2021, 06:59 AM.

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