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  • #21
    Originally posted by davef View Post

    Pretty much this

    I think everyone underestimated how good Usyk truly was at heavyweight though he never showed anything close to that performance in his 2 previous heavyweight fights he was clinical, accurate and in control the whole fight and clearly has a solid chin to go with it. Maybe Joshua should leave the rematch alone for now I don't see him winning that outside a lucky punch Usyk absolutely battered him in the 12th

    Have some domestic battles with a whyte rematch, Chisora if he beats parker or still try make the fight with Fury or Wilder
    Even if he wanted to do that he couldn't. He better start throwing hands from today he has a big rematch in March
    davef davef likes this.

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    • #22
      I agree it will be different , Joshua must open up and try to impose himself as we all saw him well beaten standing off. Only trouble is Usyk , unlike Ruiz in the rematch will be ready and his quicker , accurate punchers will bust Joshua up and maybe even stop him this time. Can you imagine what the power of Wilder would do to the open target of Joshua's low right hand ! boooom end of, it's no wonder Hearn only offered him around 15%!! back to the rematch , Joshua would be best advised not to take it and fight the loser of the big Fury v Wilder 3 and the winner of that fight gets the man. Joshua will be even more brutally exposed if he does go through with the rematch , that's for sure. Look for Hearn to be a bit part on the heavyweight scene with him pushing Dillian Whyte (who's never beat any of the top three and only beat fringe contenders , aside from average Parker) down you. Since Ruiz annihilated Joshua he seems a different fighter to the one who was prepared to stand and let his hands go with confidence but then I suppose Ruiz and Usyk are the best names he's faced as we all know Wlad couldn't let then go for long anymore. Good luck Joshua but I think at top level it's more losses than wins now.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by breeto80 View Post
        Something is weird with AJ. I've never seen a fighter so happy after losses. I mean, accept a defeat , sure, but to be overjoyed , it's just damn weird.
        I think it's likely he has anxiety and that "happiness" is because the pressure is off - for a while.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
          It's a winnable fight but Anthony Joshua is going to have to start believing in himself again. Unless he is able to do that then he will be finished as an elite prizefighter. He will become a shot/ruined fighter if he is not already now.

          Obviously, the first Andy Ruiz fight has played a major role in his loss of self-confidence. That knockout loss has left him both psychologically and permanently scarred.

          He neither engaged, traded or exchanged combination punches with Usyk for fear of being countered and clipped by him. Even when Usyk was at his most vulnerable as he was gassing.

          Oleksandr was forced to take several rounds off just in order to catch his second wind and that was AJ's opportunity to pounce on him but he was just too tentative and hesitant to do so.
          Yes, good analysis. Thanks.

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          • #25
            AJ gonna be a 15x champion at this rate!

            I think he's got a punchers chance in the rematch, that's it.

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            • #26
              Who cares about being the biggest draw? I thought fighters fought to be the best and for legacy.
              P to the J P to the J likes this.

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              • #27
                [QUOTE=thack;n31110609] Can you imagine what the power of Wilder would do to the open target of Joshua's low right hand !


                Seeing this kind of comment a lot in the aftermath of last weekend.

                Yeah, I can imagine what would happen in he above scenario, what I can’t imagine is Wilder having anywhere near the nous, ring IQ, footwork or ability to force the angles that create those openings that Usyk has. Further to that, Wilder’s left hand is appalling.

                If he’s to KO Joshua, it’ll be the right hand, but people need to get a grip on the fact that, compared to Usyk, Wilder is a novice.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Patsfan bri View Post
                  Who cares about being the biggest draw? I thought fighters fought to be the best and for legacy.
                  Word. Just a promoter licking his wounds or revealing the truth: that commercial value is his raison d’etre and boxing ability/legacy is just a means to that end

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

                    He got hit in his mouth every minute of every round for the entire fight and was still standing. Which shows he can take his punches. Do you think Wilder could hit him so frequently and he would still be standing? He was out boxed but if there is anything he has learned in that fight is that he can and should let his hands go from the start because he can take USYK shots especially if he inflicts his own damage from the start. that's the only way
                    If not for the ropes, I think he goes down in the 12th! What I'm worried about for the Brother is this, Ali had a great chin! How did that work out for him in the end? He was still standing, but shaking, and couldn't speak! I've now seen AJ dropped by Wlad, brutalized by Ruiz, and beat up by Usyk, and he only has 26 fights! Let's also mention, THIS IS IN HIS PRIME!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Patsfan bri View Post
                      Who cares about being the biggest draw? I thought fighters fought to be the best and for legacy.
                      hate to burst your bubble, but very few fight for legacy, most do it for the money.

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