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  • _Maxi
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    #1

    Bivol next fight?

    Hey guys. When is Bivol next fight? will he fight a meaningful opponent?
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    Bivol has peaked. His career was on a role and he stopped the momentum for some reason. At 1 point I would have called him the best at 175 and now I'm not sure he beats the likes of Callum Smith or even average Joe again.

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      Originally posted by Get em up
      Bivol has peaked. His career was on a role and he stopped the momentum for some reason. At 1 point I would have called him the best at 175 and now I'm not sure he beats the likes of Callum Smith or even average Joe again.
      He had a fight this year but I hope he will fight again this year, against a top opponent.

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        Originally posted by _Maxi

        He had a fight this year but I hope he will fight again this year, against a top opponent.
        He had a fight but I would swear he doesnt care anything about facing solid opposition anymore. He could have already unified but has seemingly waited on a Canelo payday instead of becoming THE man at 175 or at least trying to.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #5
          Bivol appears to be waiting until canelo chooses him.

          I was looking forward to them fighting. Would’ve been better than plant imo.

          wasn’t he supposed to fight Smith?

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            Maybe last week I saw pictures of him training, so hopefully we'll get an announcement soon

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            • bballchump11
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              I know his next fight won't be Beterbiev.

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              • Boxing Logic
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                #8
                Originally posted by _Maxi
                Hey guys. When is Bivol next fight? will he fight a meaningful opponent?
                Don't get too attached bro. He has no fanbase so he will probably get cashed out to someone else. It's like when a WWE wrestler doesn't get any ratings, you can expect them to get cashed out to someone who does, or has the potential to. I will be very, very, very surprised if he gets the Canelo fight for any reason other than underperforming his abilities dramatically, the same way Kovalev did, and making Canelo look good. But, you never know.

                As far as his next fight, I heard John Ryder lol.

                It's similar with Loma. Man has zero signature wins at 135, he's running out of time, but he is wasting his entire year first on Nakatani, and now apparently on Commey. In my opinion that tells you two things. 1. All his talk about fighting for legacy is just marketing talk, not the truth. 2. Even he is not a big star, otherwise Boxing would be willing to feed him better opponents. Instead they are saving the better opponents to be their own "franchises" rather than feed the Loma "franchise" because apparently his "franchise" is just not big enough to make it worthwhile to sacrifice the marketability of other top guys to lose to him. The one prime quality American talent he got to face at 135, they used him losing to boost the American's marketability, not vice versa. And we saw the same movie already many times with GGG-Canelo, Kovalev-Canelo, Kovalev-Ward twice, Pacquiao-Mayweather, etc.

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                • Boxing Logic
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                  Originally posted by Get em up
                  Bivol has peaked. His career was on a role and he stopped the momentum for some reason. At 1 point I would have called him the best at 175 and now I'm not sure he beats the likes of Callum Smith or even average Joe again.
                  He looked sensational against Craig Richards, you just have to turn off the commentary. The only difference between current Bivol and Bivol 4 years ago is that the same punches used to drop people and knock them out, but now they just snap the head and have no effect. It turns out the saying "you are either born with power or you're not" is not true. Apparently, low ticket sales will affect your punching power, in this case negatively, even more than birth will!

                  Bivol is a top pound for pound talent in the sport. In the ring, he has it all. Reminds me of Sugar Ray Leonard. It's just that outside the ring, he probably doesn't have the popularity to beat certain opponents less talented than him who do have that popularity. Boxing is not a sport, it's more like high school, except that in some high schools every once in awhile real fights will happen. So maybe you could say Boxing is more like a posh private high school or something.

                  Ever since Bivol has been struggling to sell tickets, I started seeing people in the sport compare him to Demetrius Andrade. That's so disingenuous lol. When did Andrade beat Sullivan Barrera better than Andre Ward did? When did Bivol struggle with Vanes and Culcay etc? Andrade is a good fast boxer. I don't know if he's as good as Chad Dawson, considering how fast Dawson was for a big light heavyweight, but that's more what he is. Shakur Stevenson is another good comp. Skilled southpaw. Great speed and pretty good movement. Slick defense but not always perfect fundamentals and it can get him in trouble. In other words his leg movement and head movement are good, but his guard not.

                  Bivol also has great speed, great movement, even better ring IQ and distance management, maybe the best in the sport. His foot movement is as good maybe better. Great head movement but barely needs to use it because his footwork and guard are so good. His guard is better than Andrade's.

                  But for simplicity's sake, he has all Andrade's strengths. Andrade's reach is better, that's his one and only advantage. Bivol has every other strength he has. But then you add to it, better gas tank, better chin, and way better physical strength, way better power, and his jab is just insane it's more like shooting a rubber band at someone, except the rubber band is heavy, than a jab. It's like Mr. Fantastic in the Fantastic 4 extending it out and then back in a snap. But all Bivol's punches are like that. They just flow explosively. Whereas Andrade is a very good speed boxer, but below average at the "strength" game and "power" game. Bivol is an elite speed boxer, elite defensively, elite fundamentally, elite mentally, very good power and stamina and chin, and he is physically stronger for light heavyweight than Andrade is for middleweight and 154.

                  Bivol has also shown elite resistance to body shots. When he was inexperienced, he walked right into one of the nastiest left hooks to the body I've seen from Sullivan Barrera, right on the liver, right as Bivol opened himself up. He basically got caught that at the worst moment. And it didn't do anything to him. His face reacted like he got hit but it didn't affect his legs or anything.

                  Bivol also traded body shots with Jean Pascal late in their fight.

                  Bivol has that Nihito Arakawa attitude, if you remember the Omar Figueroa fight. When Bivol gets hit, it's strange how much his head snaps back even off small punches, but it has no effect on him. It looks bad to the camera but it's not actually hurting him. Some guys heads snap more than others. Arakawa's head snapped everywhere vs Figueroa but his chin was iron. Same with body shots to Bivol. So late in his fights even after he dominated from the outside for 9 rounds, you keep seeing him vs Pascal and Richards go to the inside for him and start trading and mixing it up to get experience. He just puts his head in the opponent's chest, covers his face, lets them swing at his body, absorbs it, and then counters with bigger hooks to their face.

                  Do I like it? No, because it strains credibility that Bivol is such a complete skillful fighter but he only has two moves on the inside. I bet in reality he can mix it up really beautifully inside if he wants to, like Beterbiev, Ward, Lomachenko, Usyk, and Hopkins. But it goes back to what I said at the beginning of the comment, when a fighter doesn't sell tickets, you have to manufacture some weaknesses for him in the ring so that when it comes time to cash him out to someone who sells tickets, it will be believable.
                  Last edited by Boxing Logic; 09-30-2021, 01:42 AM.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    Nobody mentioned Zurdo Ramirez in the thread. Lol. That Mexican been calling out Bivol with various headlines but not even a peep from Bivol. I guess Bivol is scared of what Zurdo did to Barrera… let’s be honest.

                    Zurdo vs Smith will be a great fight btw. Hopefully Matchroom and GBP come to terms, but Hearn will steal Bivol for Smith on DAZN. That is obvious. Smith will fight Bivol for the belt. Hearn can easily make the offer

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