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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Defends Joshua: Give AJ a Break, It Was His Corner's Fault

    John Fury, the father of WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, has actually come out in defense of Anthony Joshua. Last weekend, Joshua suffered a twelve round unanimous decision loss to Oleksandr Uysk, who walked away with the WBO, IBF, IBO, WBA heavyweight titles.
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  • KingGilgamesh
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    Honestly I think Joshua's finished. I don't think people truly have any respect for him. Fighters who are highly rated get torn to pieces when they put in a less than stellar performance. If it can happen to Loma then it can happen to Joshua too.

    Either Joshua is immensely talented and he failed to deliver (more likely) or Joshua is an overrated champion and this is about as good as he could have fought. It shows how we pathetically put personality ahead of talent.

    Yes, his corner was poor but he hardly showed anything resembling any ingenuity out there either. Its like he just gave up after the 9th. That's the best a unified heavyweight champion can muster? Seriously?

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    • Tecnoworld
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      AJ was used to boxers who either don't attack when attacked or don't move to chase him. Ruiz did the first thing and won. But lost the rematch for the second reason. Usyk does both things VERY well.

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      • Iamsmoke89
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        Look there is no way aj beats Usyk and that’s just that. He hit him with good punches all night that rocked aj just about all night beginning of the fight with purpose to knock him out. Found out during the post fight that he was told not to go for the knock out and yet still rocked him good after. Usyk is like another Fury only thing is for a Cruiserweight to come in and dominate a true heavyweight like that I don’t see how in the heck aj can make adjustments by feb/March to beat usyk. He is no Ruiz by far he been to the top of the mountain with a lot of success and it didn’t get to him. Hell Ruiz wasn’t even at the top of the mountain he still had a quarter to go cause he wasn’t undisputed

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          Originally posted by Iamsmoke89
          Look there is no way aj beats Usyk and that’s just that. He hit him with good punches all night that rocked aj just about all night beginning of the fight with purpose to knock him out. Found out during the post fight that he was told not to go for the knock out and yet still rocked him good after. Usyk is like another Fury only thing is for a Cruiserweight to come in and dominate a true heavyweight like that I don’t see how in the heck aj can make adjustments by feb/March to beat usyk. He is no Ruiz by far he been to the top of the mountain with a lot of success and it didn’t get to him. Hell Ruiz wasn’t even at the top of the mountain he still had a quarter to go cause he wasn’t undisputed
          Did Joshua go for the kill? He had USYK hurt also with single shots. threw no combinations and threw 2 uppercuts all night. The one to the stomach hurt Usyk. . Listen he was embarrassed and beat up there is no denying that but can he do better in the rematch? tactically he cant do any worse

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            #6
            Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
            Honestly I think Joshua's finished. I don't think people truly have any respect for him. Fighters who are highly rated get torn to pieces when they put in a less than stellar performance. If it can happen to Loma then it can happen to Joshua too.

            Either Joshua is immensely talented and he failed to deliver (more likely) or Joshua is an overrated champion and this is about as good as he could have fought. It shows how we pathetically put personality ahead of talent.

            Yes, his corner was poor but he hardly showed anything resembling any ingenuity out there either. Its like he just gave up after the 9th. That's the best a unified heavyweight champion can muster? Seriously?
            How many people respect WILDER.? who cares. If wilder beats Fury he gets back his respect and Fury loses his respect. If Aj wins rematch he gets back his respect. Its the fight business that's how this works. i agree with your last point

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            • 1hourRun
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              One must be careful on who to trust these days, there are all kinds of snakes in the grass around every corner. I'm sure Tyson and the Kronk-Gym were plotting against A.J, like they done the 'Bronze-Bomber' Deontay Wilder.

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              • Sparked_26
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                Sometimes think the put it on him approach seems too simplistic and that essentially was stopped in its tracks when AJ got rocked in the 3rd. I dunno. I suppose you're not gonna throw a punch you know isnt gonna land. I had the same criticism of Callum Smith against Canelo but it is probably unfair.

                AJ did seem like he hurt him in those rounds where he started hitting him with a few solid right hands in the rounds he won - 5 and 6 or 6 and 7 forgot which. If you put those rounds in isolation you'd think that was the gameplan being executed I guess. But it was just 2 rounds.

                The main problem as usual to me seemed like AJ tired again and never got a 2nd wind as well as Usyk being so good. I know he had the swelling but even after the last good round he had he lost like the last 5 rounds. Usyk adjusted yes but I'd imagine Usyk felt the weight of shot coming back from AJ was nothing to be too worried about

                He just doesnt look like can fight for 12 at an elite level with someone like Usyk who is a supremely conditioned 12 round fighter which AJ knew. He's tried everything to that end. He's a good athlete but he's probably just not as relaxed as someone like Usyk or Fury. He battered Pulev from pillar to post and talks about how tired he was.
                Last edited by Sparked_26; 09-29-2021, 04:21 AM.

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                  Originally posted by Tecnoworld
                  AJ was used to boxers who either don't attack when attacked or don't move to chase him. Ruiz did the first thing and won. But lost the rematch for the second reason. Usyk does both things VERY well.
                  Isn't that what the HW division is?

                  Some of you are very funny. Apart from Ali and now Usyk, not that many HWs move that fast.

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                  • champion4ever
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                    Baloney! This loss is all on AJ. It's like that old saying goes "you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink'. Blame his corner for what? It was Joshua in there doing the fighting not his corner.

                    Joshua lost the fight because he has stopped believing in himself. He no longer trusts his chin or stamina which is why he was so reluctant in taking the necessary risks and chances in order to be successful in the fight.

                    When that happens a fighter is ruined. He becomes a shot fighter. He is not the same fighter anymore. That Andy Ruiz knockout must've really permanently damaged him.

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