Will Fans Keep The Same Energy?

[koolkc107]

After October 9th, one way or another there will be a chance for a unification at heavyweight. Whether it's Fury or Wilder emerging victorious, there will be an immediate path to an undisputed heavyweight champion.

So I wonder...will fans demand that Usyk ignore his rematch clause with Joshua the same way they demanded that Fury ignore his contract with Wilder?

Will they argue that, because the Usyk win was so dominant and because it's highly unlikely AJ can do anything different in a second fight, for the good of boxing we should just go directly to a unification? What if the Saudis offer the same mountain of cash to Usyk and Fury/Wilder? What if Vegas or Manila field counter offers?

I need all of you who were so gung-ho for AJ vs Fury in the desert earlier this year to chime in on how you think a direct unification this time would be appropriate or inappropriate.

Will you keep the same energy?

[Robbie Barrett]

Usyks win wasn't anywhere close to as dominant as Fury's over Wilder and Fury had a get out clause, Usyk does not.

[koolkc107]

Usyks win wasn't anywhere close to as dominant as Fury's over Wilder and Fury had a get out clause, Usyk does not.

The fact remains most folks don't think AJ can do any better in a rematch.

And clearly, Fury DIDN'T have a get out clause because if he did we wouldn't have a fight next month.

Cong**** on being the first hypocrite to reply tho...

[Robbie Barrett]

The fact remains most folks don't think AJ can do any better in a rematch.

And clearly, Fury DIDN'T have a get out clause because if he did we wouldn't have a fight next month.

Cong**** on being the first hypocrite to reply tho...

Fact is it was a closer fight and he did have a get out clause, his own team confirmed he could have walked away in December. Apples and Oranges. Impossible for a fighter to get beaten any worse than Wilder did against Fury.

[Pigeons]

I want to see the Fury-Wilder III winner fight Dillian Whyte. I also want to see the Usyk/Joshua rematch.

Winners fight each other. There will be absolutely no excuses after that and not a single other fighter will have an argument to be in the mix with the last two remaining after that.

[koolkc107]

Fact is it was a closer fight and he did have a get out clause, his own team confirmed he could have walked away in December. Apples and Oranges. Impossible for a fighter to get beaten any worse than Wilder did against Fury.

The contract Fury signed had an arbitration and mediation clause, not any "get out" clause. That's exactly why they're fighting in two weeks, so you can keep parroting nonsense all you like but the truth is the truth.

But again (as usual) you're missing the point. And you didn't answer the OP.

The point isn't the rematch clause. The point is that folks were willing to ignore it when it came to excluding Wilder and making the AJ vs Fury fight. All parties involved knew Wilder would seek legal remedy AND THEY DIDN'T CARE.

So I'm asking...if the winner Oct 9 tries to immediately unify with Usyk will you back that as much as you backed AJ vs Fury? And why or why not? I mean isn't getting an undisputed heavyweight champion the best thing?

[koolkc107]

I want to see the Fury-Wilder III winner fight Dillian Whyte. I also want to see the Usyk/Joshua rematch.

Winners fight each other. There will be absolutely no excuses after that and not a single other fighter will have an argument to be in the mix with the last two remaining after that.

I absolutely think this is actually the way thing will play out.

AJ is definitely going to enforce his rematch clause and the WBC champion finally taking out the trash that is Dillian Whyte is a decent purse while Usyk and AJ are sorted out.

My question is, if the Oct 9 winner and Usyk tried to do the same thing AJ and Fury tried to do, would your stance on that attempt to unify be the same as the one that ultimately failed earlier this year?

[Robbie Barrett]

The contract Fury signed had an arbitration and mediation clause, not any "get out" clause. That's exactly why they're fighting in two weeks, so you can keep parroting nonsense all you like but the truth is the truth.

But again (as usual) you're missing the point. And you didn't answer the OP.

The point isn't the rematch clause. The point is that folks were willing to ignore it when it came to excluding Wilder and making the AJ vs Fury fight. All parties involved knew Wilder would seek legal remedy AND THEY DIDN'T CARE.

So I'm asking...if the winner Oct 9 tries to immediately unify with Usyk will you back that as much as you backed AJ vs Fury? And why or why not? I mean isn't getting an undisputed heavyweight champion the best thing?

Ignore it? Because they said it wouldn't be a problem. Wilder also lost every second of the fight, Wilder-Fury is the most underserving rematch in history. You can't compare the two situations.

His team said he could have got out of the contract in December, i'll take their word over yours. Thanks.

[tophat1]

To be fair that's a decent question. The answer is going to be no. I think that was possibly as much to do as fans wanting fury vs aj rather than the manner of the fury win. So it was more of a pro fury vs aj thing rather than an anti wilder thing

[koolkc107]

Ignore it? Because they said it wouldn't be a problem. Wilder also lost every second of the fight, Wilder-Fury is the most underserving rematch in history. You can't compare the two situations.

His team said he could have got out of the contract in December, i'll take their word over yours. Thanks.

His team was wrong.

And of all people who should have known the bullcrap wouldn't fly, Warren and Arum should have been first in line. Warren was connected to Lennox Lewis around the time of the dispute with Rahman. And Arum promoted Rahman later. The Lewis vs Rahman case was the exact precedent cited by the arbitration judge.

So, their "word" was in contradiction to a similar situation they should have been familiar with.

Also, however well you think Fury did the second fight, the fact remains he was UNCONSCIOUS in the first one and that is entirely possible in a third fight. More possible, in fact, than AJ figuring out a way to beat Usyk in just 6 months.

So again I ask...why aren't you keeping the same energy?