So....Will AJ beat Usyk in the rematch??

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #21
    AJ must stop Usyk in first 6 rounds. Otherwise he will gas out and Usyk will take an advantage.

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    • RENE JUNIOR
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      #22
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      AJ must stop Usyk in first 6 rounds. Otherwise he will gas out and Usyk will take an advantage.
      True, but I think a lot of people were saying the same thing for the first fight.
      We'll see what happens

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        #23
        Originally posted by RENE JUNIOR

        True, but I think a lot of people were saying the same thing for the first fight.
        We'll see what happens
        The difference is, Joshua must start more aggressive. That will cost him much more energy but he must take the risk. he can`t beat usyk boxing 12 rounds, I just don`t see that.

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          I think being more aggressive for AJ is easier said than done. He can't be reckless and Usyk gave him so much movement, he didn't know where to go. He did land a shot here and there but those were mostly the non-loaded up punches when AJ let them go with more speed but less power. When AJ loaded up, he typically missed those punches by a mile. Getting overly aggressive appeared to rile up Usyk to also step up his aggression and AJ appeared to not like that so he would back down.

          I honestly am not sure AJ is stylistically ever made to beat Usyk. It could be one of those... Then again, I thought Andy would get AJ in the rematch but AJ ended up mostly on his bike for 12 rds to safely get the decision. I don't think he could do the same to Usyk however and get the decision.

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            #25
            Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

            The difference is, Joshua must start more aggressive. That will cost him much more energy but he must take the risk. he can`t beat usyk boxing 12 rounds, I just don`t see that.
            I mean that was the big issue definitely.
            It's hard to grasp that AJ's coach was instructing him to try boxing Usyk out, quite elementary strategy against such a high IQ boxer like Usyk.

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            • RENE JUNIOR
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              #26
              Originally posted by ELPacman
              I think being more aggressive for AJ is easier said than done. He can't be reckless and Usyk gave him so much movement, he didn't know where to go. He did land a shot here and there but those were mostly the non-loaded up punches when AJ let them go with more speed but less power. When AJ loaded up, he typically missed those punches by a mile. Getting overly aggressive appeared to rile up Usyk to also step up his aggression and AJ appeared to not like that so he would back down.

              I honestly am not sure AJ is stylistically ever made to beat Usyk. It could be one of those... Then again, I thought Andy would get AJ in the rematch but AJ ended up mostly on his bike for 12 rds to safely get the decision. I don't think he could do the same to Usyk however and get the decision.
              Very well said man.
              I very well can be that it could be one of those cases where one style simply cannot prevail over the other.
              I am really intrigued on the rematch definitely.

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              • Nash out
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                #27
                Live Nash had it 9-3,10-2 Usyk, but on rewatch he realises that Usyk, actually won every round - 120-108 Usyk. Usyk by KO inside 3 rounds in the rematch. Nash out.

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                • Zonkmeister
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                  #28
                  He can, but he'd have to make some adjustments: 1) to his punching technique; he'd do better with more of a George Foreman thing going. Thudding power without so much focus on pin-point accuracy. Some of the body shots he landed in the middle rounds were a step in the right direction, but they did not discourage the Ukrainian quite enough, 2) be more mean and determined - which could help, but Usyk's got a mean streak as well, he's just very controlled (shades of Ali there, I think), 3) try for more of a size/weight bully style, like Chisora did or as Fury does when his opponent is too slick to his liking, lol.

                  He did well on the stamina front in this fight, but I dunno whether it would hold out if he went more aggro. Also Usyk apparently punches hard enough to keep AJ honest even when not going all-out on the power, and AJ's chin is not what you would consider elite, so there's that to take into account as well.

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                  • Satir
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                    #29
                    no, he will not; If AJ tries some crazy schit he'll be stopped

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                      #30
                      Well of course he can win but not unless he hurts Usyk early and Usyk aware of that with the feet he has likely to make it difficult.

                      He tried being circumspect and tried to take minimal damage in the early part of the fight when the speed difference was at its greatest and had 2 very good rounds after that. However, Usyk caught his second wind and AJ basically blew up anyway.

                      So, sh.it or bust really? Would AJ throw punches now he's not confident have a good chance of hitting the target and punch with Usyk? It is a tough one really.

                      Could AJ make peace that he could be knocked out and potentially knocked out early as the flipside to giving himself the best chance to put a big dent in and maybe stop Usyk himself?

                      I dunno really, it is heavies. AJ needs to knock him out and put it on him before he gases because I cant just see how Usyk could not outlast AJ in any 12 round contest now
                      Last edited by Sparked_26; 10-07-2021, 04:08 PM.

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