Comments Thread For: Joshua: I Believe I'll Get A Good Win In Next Fight With Usyk Because Of What I Learned

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Joshua has done very well for a guy with limited boxing skill. He has good punching power, and he beat Wladimir and Whyte. Other than them though, who has he really impressed against?

He was very fortunate to get the gold medal as well, but not saying he's bad or anything. He's made so much money, he doesn't have to fight again, but still young and can fight for a few more years.

I think Whyte would flatten this new timid version of AJ.

[TheMDIDDI]

The problem is AJ is for all the studying and learning he supposedly does it’s weird he still doesn’t even know how to put his hands up, tighten his defence and walk his man down. He doesn’t even know how to clinch. Ud think he make that adjustment after getting out boxed for the first 5 rounds. Floyd did it against Judah, fury did it against wilder in the rematch etc not once did Aj throw an uppercut. He loses the rematch

[PRINCEKOOL]

The problem he's got isn't solving the Usyk he faced at the weekend. That would be tough enough, though even I can see very clear things that worked and didn't work.

His problem is that Usyk is a master at solving problems during fights. It's also what Joshua doesn't seem to do too well. He made adjustments on Saturday and Usyk just stepped up a gear and brought the fight home.

I'll watch though. And I hope he can do it. If he does, then fair play to him.

The closer the fight got, I started to realize.

Usyk in some ways is a unknown quantity, the level of his abilities is unknown 'Because he seems to be the type of fighter, who just does enough to win'.

This is why he looks good, but nothing spectacular. Usyk just did enough against Joshua, the performance for me did not require anything mesmerizing.

I still don't think the performance was a all time great performance 'Usyk just did enough, against a regressed Joshua'.

Joshua has regressed as a fighter 'I think Dillian Whyte would of beaten that Joshua who fought Uysk'.

Note: For the rematch, if Anthony Joshua wanted to? He could completely change his dimensions. Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Kiltschko, and 254 pounds vs Takam. So Joshua knows from experience and empirical knowledge 'That he can function in hard, tough long fight while bringing some super heavyweight mass.

Uysk does not beat, or survive a full 12 rounds vs the Joshua who fought Kiltschko.

So for me all Joshua needs to do for this rematch is to play to his strengths,. Which are his physicality, basic boxing fundamentals and combination punching. If Joshua duplicates his former life style and training habits from pre-Ruiz I, I honestly don't think Usyk will be able to survive that type of bombardment.

There is also zero evidence, that Joshua's endurance has improved post Ruiz I. The Ruiz Junior rematch, was not fought at a high intensity 'Kiltschko vs Joshua was a by far more high intensity fight'.

[Toffee]

The closer the fight got, I started to realize.

Usyk in some ways is a unknown quantity, the level of his abilities is unknown 'Because he seems to be the type of fighter, who just does enough to win'.

This is why he looks good, but nothing spectacular. Usyk just did enough against Joshua, the performance for me did not require anything memorizing.

I still don't think the performance was a all time great performance 'Usyk just did enough, against a regressed Joshua'.

Joshua has regressed as a fighter 'I think Dillian Whyte would of beaten that Joshua who fought Uysk'.

Note: For the rematch, if Anthony Joshua wanted to? He could completely change his dimensions. Joshua weighed in at 250 pounds vs Kiltschko, and 254 pounds vs Takam. So Joshua knows from experience and empirical knowledge 'That he can function in hard, tough long fight while bringing some super heavyweight mass.

Uysk does not beat, or survive a full 12 rounds vs the Joshua who fought Kiltschko.

So for me all Joshua needs to do for this rematch is to play to his strengths,. Which are his physicality, basic boxing fundamentals and combination punching. If Joshua duplicates his former life style and training habits from pre-Ruiz I, I honestly don't think Usyk will be able to survive that type of bombardment.

There is also zero evidence, that Joshua's endurance has improved post Ruiz I. The Ruiz Junior rematch, was not fought at a high intensity 'Kiltschko vs Joshua was a by far more high intensity fight'.

You'll never know whether this was a better or worse Joshua. Maybe it was that Joshua has regressed, but maybe it was just that Usyk made him look ordinary. There are two people in a fight and both contribute to each other's performance. It's not golf, it's not running or swimming. Your performance isn't independent of your opponent.

I can see what Joshua could do. It's basically the opposite of what he did.

When Usyk came forward (which he did all fight), Joshua could have met him rather than trying to back out to maintain his distance. That would allow him to turn it into a show of strength. AJ was obsessed with distance control. Why, when you're the stronger, heavier man?

Joshua could have led more with the right straight to the head and body. The jab only got Usyk's head moving and telegraphed his next punch. Lead rights were about all that worked, yet he persisted with waving the jab past Usyk's ears (seemingly on his trainer's direction).

He needed to land more on Usyk. Usyk was moving from the waist brilliantly, so AJ was pushing air. Lowering the target means you might not hit the chin, but you hit something. Against a smaller man you have to hit something - chest, shoulders, neck, doesn't matter. Give him something to fear and keep him honest.

The problem is that Usyk had all the answers to what Joshua did do, and may be capable of finding answers to whatever Joshua does next. To date, he's always found the answer and as you said, done enough to win.

And if Usyk changes approach, I'm not convinced Joshua can adjust mid fight. You saw on Saturday, he just fought to the end for a wide points loss.

[iamboxing]

He's not fighting B-level fighter like Ruiz, who barely trained for the rematch and became the best client of half of local pizzerias.

lol nice one

[Adsy]

I wondered mid-fight how much of the shouting was an attempt to sway the judges in the closer earlier rounds. "Rob Mc-Crappen" is a bit harsh though mate he's masterminded many a world title and olympic gold.

Yeh you're right it is harsh, just having a light hearted dig. But I think he needs the change up of trainers.
AJ moved away from his strengths, needs to embrace his strength and size, work on imposing himself. Work on pressuring usyk and finding a home for a hard counter when usyk opens up.
only way he wins a rematch is by avoiding a technical boxing match.
Usyk was far too quick, his movement was unreal to watch.
Someone said he does just enough to win...? Watch his fight with Gassiev, schooled him.
Fury will prob beat him as he boxes and moves well, has great IQ and he's humongous and will use it to his advantage.
Don't think it'd be a snooze fest like some say

[snowdog]

Joshua has done very well for a guy with limited boxing skill. He has good punching power, and he beat Wladimir and Whyte. Other than them though, who has he really impressed against?

He was very fortunate to get the gold medal as well, but not saying he's bad or anything. He's made so much money, he doesn't have to fight again, but still young and can fight for a few more years.

It's also debatable whether he would have beaten Klitschko if Fury hadn't beaten him first I think.