What should Joshua be? Is he a puncher? a boxer? what skill set(s) define him as a fighter?

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  • billeau2
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    What should Joshua be? Is he a puncher? a boxer? what skill set(s) define him as a fighter?

    Ok so you are the great grandson of Leo Durocher, the irascible manager of the New York Giants, who coined the phrase "Nice guys finish last." Your nose is upturned from being used as a speedbag, etc... You get a call... Special assignment. Anthony Joshua needs a coach and you are the man... Your blunt, you don't give two shiats who likes what you have to say... Your Johnny Ruiz's Stoney.

    You walk in and there is Joshua he's been crying a bit... his team look at you...

    1) How do you describe what kind of fighter Joshua is? What defines him... a puncher?, a boxer puncher with a good punch?, etc etc...
    2) How do you whip this kid into fighting shape?
    3) how are you, a brawling menace, going to take mild mannered Anthony to the next level?
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    I guess a boxer puncher. He doesn't have the skills to be a slick boxer or the stamina to have a work rate of a brawler.

    Gotta get a new trainer and get him away from the UK and in America. Get Teddy Atlas to be his trainer and be tough on him

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      Boxer puncher.


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        #4
        Originally posted by MikeyMike100
        I guess a boxer puncher. He doesn't have the skills to be a slick boxer or the stamina to have a work rate of a brawler.

        Gotta get a new trainer and get him away from the UK and in America. Get Teddy Atlas to be his trainer and be tough on him
        Damn man!!! I love it!!! Atlas would be the perfect guy to light a fire under St Anthony's A s s. Great idea.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
          Boxer puncher.

          Ok then... He needs to work on angles, timing, and footwork. Mickey the poster above you suggested Teddy Atlas, a great idea... and, have Anthony work with Michael Moore, a very underrated boxer puncher, IMO one of the best boxing punching cruisers on a top ten to fifteen list. Maybe pull Toney away from the Buffet as well. A little Kronk Gym Love!

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            Originally posted by billeau2

            Ok then... He needs to work on angles, timing, and footwork. Mickey the poster above you suggested Teddy Atlas, a great idea... and, have Anthony work with Michael Moore, a very underrated boxer puncher, IMO one of the best boxing punching cruisers on a top ten to fifteen list. Maybe pull Toney away from the Buffet as well. A little Kronk Gym Love!
            The probably with AJ is that he lacks fluidity and I think some of it is just down to his anatomy.

            I’m not sure what a trainer could do with him tbh. He’s strong and can fire of combos in close but doesn’t have the chin or the stamina to risk that against top level opposition.

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            • El Más Loco
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              He's definitely not a boxer, as he just tried to box a true boxer and failed. Not a brawler, because he clearly cant take punches like a true brawler is required to take to then return and get his shots off.
              He's a boxer puncher but still hasn't mastered that because he has a trainer that just is not elite.
              I feel he needs to learn how to fight a similar style to Andre Ward. Ward has/had a great balance of knowing when to out box, when to get on the inside, and even when to get slightly dirty. I feel AJ has the tools were he can still be molded into that type of fighter......he just needs to find a top level trainer and also shake off the Broner gun-shy effect he currently suffers from.
              Last edited by El Más Loco; 09-27-2021, 01:51 PM.

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              • tonysoprano
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                Puncher. He has great gifts physically that he no longer uses.

                Manny Steward would have been perfect to train him.

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                  He's a boxer-puncher - he just doesn't know when to punch and when to box.

                  This is the stage of his career where he ought to be cognisant with who he truly is and master what he does best. However, he's caught up in too many idiotic trying to be people who he's not. He's 6'6 and muscular but he's trying to be Mayweather, Tyson and Ali.

                  His best attributes:

                  - ambidextrous with great power in both hands.
                  - very good jab and a variety whenever he decides to use it.
                  - great variety of uppercuts from the devastating midrange one with the swift but powerful short one
                  - excellent lead left hook and a swift/powerful short one
                  - big and powerful hooks with both hands
                  - devastating big right hand from long range
                  - explosiveness at midrange

                  Shockingly, he didn't use any of these on Saturday save for the occasional lazy right he didn't throw with authority a few times. He basically just used new things and he pawed his jab for 12 rds. he was a new boxer in there and it wasn't because of Usyk. He could've caught Usyk a few times with huge shots if he tried to. Usyk was there to be hit because he got too ****y with his left since nothing was coming back at him. That's what you get when you keep convincing yourself about "learning on the job" with all kinds of amateur coaches around you trying different styles.

                  If he can focus solely on his attributes, improve his footwork/head-movement, master how to set traps and let his hands go whenever he needs to - he'll be back to where he was. He just needs a better coach to tell him the truth about himself.
                  Last edited by BangEM; 09-27-2021, 02:11 PM.

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                  • billeau2
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

                    The probably with AJ is that he lacks fluidity and I think some of it is just down to his anatomy.

                    I’m not sure what a trainer could do with him tbh. He’s strong and can fire of combos in close but doesn’t have the chin or the stamina to risk that against top level opposition.
                    His chin has to protect it...
                    fluidity not necessary. Needs to understand timing...watch ward, a master boxer. Not fluid really.

                    He gets knocked off balance a lot. Means his balance is off.
                    Last edited by billeau2; 09-27-2021, 02:31 PM.

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