How low is AJ's boxing IQ?

[Boxing-1013]

He had only 41 amateur fights and he ought to getting into world title fights now if his career had been managed properly by experienced people. he just happened to have had a very greedy promoter. Okolie is another one that would end up worse than him but I'm happy he didn't move up to HW after winning the world title like Hearn was pushing for.

Wilder didn't fight for a world title until his 33rd fight and Fury didn't fight for a world title until his 25th fight.

People forget Fury is only a year older than AJ because he looks old but he turned pro 5 years before AJ.

And he's not a flawed fighter - he's just an insecure/confused fighter who's trying to assimilate too many things at once. If he can stick to things that works perfectly for him and master them - he'd be unbeatable. When you're trying to be Mayweather, Tyson, Wlad, Lennox and Ali in one - you'd look flawed. Be Anthony Joshua and use your best attributes albeit with a better trainer that understands the sport at the top level.

Man you guys are really taking this hard. It's hard to watch. How old are you?

[BangEM]

Honestly, it isn't that his IQ is terribly low, it is just he's not as complete of a fighter as the hype initially had you believe. We know now that he's vulnerable and not perfect at all. He can be hit, he can be rocked, and if he faces a boxer, he can be neutralized pretty effectively. Granted it is easier said than done for any of his opponents to pull off because while he's not perfect, they need to perform a perfect fight as well because he can easily turn the tide with any given shot.

I just think he came at the right time. Old champ on the way out, new champ on the way in. Collected all the belts. Faced some meh competition and avoided the ones people truly want to see because of an unsure outcome on those (Wilder, Fury). Yet even trying to dance around stronger competition, you'll get those upset moments from the ones you didn't expect to be much of an issue for you (Ruiz, Usyk).

Aj easily outdid Ruiz in the rematch but Ruiz looked like a PHAAAAT piece of sh!!!t who really didn't care about training for it. Despite that, Aj put on a whatever boxing performance to keep Ruiz away from him for 12 rds.

I don't think it'll be as easy against Usyk in rematch. Usyk won't abandon training completely and will take the rematch as serious as the first fight. If anything, it might be more of a concern for Aj because I think Usyk was more effective when Aj got a little too active. Usyk just might be a bad matchup overall for Aj no matter what.

The idea of a complete boxer is a myth. There's no complete boxer - never have been and there will never be. Great boxers know what their attributes are and use them to their advantage hence when building a perfect boxer, you always have to take different attributes from different boxers.

Usyk looked like a complete boxer on Saturday but trust me, if AJ had jumped on him the few times he hurt him, leaned on him or punished him every time he feints before throwing his left since he got predictable after the first two rds - the result would be different. Usyk's marked up face also showed he took a lot of punishment in there, he just masked it very well with his movement and offensive style.

He beats Usyk if he decides to take risks and tie him up whenever he needed to. He didn't even tie him up once throughout the fight and the only person doing that occasionally was Usyk (the smaller guy). And I don't see Usyk ever performing better than he did on Saturday - it was the greatest performance of his career.

[uppercut510]

he started late so hes still learning on the fly, we have to take this into account he was just hyped and put on the pedestal has this amazing great fighter when we all knew he was average with alot of flaws but were called names for pointing it out, its not the end of the world but its not looking good for the guy.

[uppercut510]

Man you guys are really taking this hard. It's hard to watch. How old are you?

lol its no reasoning with them

[#1PaperChamp]

It must be pretty low I'd figure

Its certainly not high

[#1PaperChamp]

he started late so hes still learning on the fly, we have to take this into account he was just hyped and put on the pedestal has this amazing great fighter when we all knew he was average with alot of flaws but were called names for pointing it out, its not the end of the world but its not looking good for the guy.

Sergio Martinez didnt have this problem. Neither did Bernard Hopkins.

The reality is AJ made it this far because of how big he is. Had he been in any other weight class, where people were equal size, hes a fringe contender.

[deathofaclown]

About as low as his regular IQ

I mean, being a big stuff robot that thinks he’s some master technician and can outbox Usyk isn’t just a case of boxing IQ, it’s a case of general intelligence

[sicko]

not enough to out box Usyk or Fury

he is a Heavyweight...Fight Like It! Since the Ruiz Fight he been fighting very cautious

[deathofaclown]

You mean the particular fake ***ish heritage you claim deceitfully claim the world's highest IQ.

Yes, we know - they're the master of deceit.

They're like Charles Martin the self-proclaimed who claimed he walks on water until he got sparked.

I've forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know. And that's if yer extremely low IQ can grasp it.

Clearly not if you thought AJ would beat Usyk

you’re just a sky sports casual that’s been watching a few fights for about 3 years.

I appreciate the effort you put in to try and engage like a knowledgeable boxing fan, it’s cute but it’s been proven time and time again you know very little. You’ve been brainwashed by Adam Smith and Eddie Hearn.

[ELPacman]

The idea of a complete boxer is a myth. There's no complete boxer - never have been and there will never be. Great boxers know what their attributes are and use them to their advantage hence when building a perfect boxer, you always have to take different attributes from different boxers.

Usyk looked like a complete boxer on Saturday but trust me, if AJ had jumped on him the few times he hurt him, leaned on him or punished him every time he feints before throwing his left since he got predictable after the first two rds - the result would be different. Usyk's marked up face also showed he took a lot of punishment in there, he just masked it very well with his movement and offensive style.

He beats Usyk if he decides to take risks and tie him up whenever he needed to. He didn't even tie him up once throughout the fight and the only person doing that occasionally was Usyk (the smaller guy). And I don't see Usyk ever performing better than he did on Saturday - it was the greatest performance of his career.

The reason I agree with this is because Usyk is already 34 and a smaller heavyweight. Natural heavyweights can compete at high levels going into their 40s because their body is naturally performing with that weight being moved around. I feel like Usyk has to put on extra work to stay effective at heavyweight that his body is not naturally accustomed to. I don't think him getting older is going to help with that.

Yet, while he put on a great performance, I also feel like, he put on his usual performance. That was Usyk and how he fights against almost anyone else. He slowly breaks you down and lands the occasional hard shot when he really goes for it to make sure you know he's got powa too. I think he would fight anyone else similar because he always has. He's a very mobile fighter that uses tons of feigns. I lost count how many times he faked the straight left and right hook. He's like programmed to continuously feint within his style. It just comes naturally.