AJ isn't overrated/overhyped - he's just an insecure guy trying to please everyone

[KingGilgamesh]

This is about Anthony Joshua, and nobody else. I think he has a big influence on what he does, at all times.

I am not really getting into sociology or where Joshua should be hanging out. He has a giant entourage with plenty of black folk in there, who I would imagine are from rough parts of London.

Joshua is a grown man, he has clearly made a conscious decision to be all matey matey 'For what reason? I don't know'. Joshua was even being all matey matey, during his ringwalk.

Knocking about with some hoodlums is not going to win him the rematch, optimal training and preparation is what will win him the rematch.

That is what I am focusing on, whatever he did pre- Ruiz I 'He needs to duplicate all of that, in his lifestyle and training'.

Because he has clearly changed his approach to the game, and if forcing himself to be something he is not. He needs to just play to his strengths, raw physicality, basic fundamentals and combination punching. If it works out for him? Fantastic, if it does not in the rematch 'I can assure you, it will be a by far better fight'.

I personally think, if he somehow duplicates his former self 'He will win the rematch'.

I don't think Usyk beats the Joshua who fought Kiltschko, but Joshua post Ruiz I 'Is a regressed fighter, and I have been saying this for sometime'.

****Em was not stating this, he was trying to convince everyone on this forum 'That Joshua was transcending, that he was better than he was before'.

Now he realizes, that none of this was the case. And everyone has a different clinical psychological, sociological take on it.

Joshua is a professional athlete, he has family 'He is not going to start hanging about in a hood somewhere with hoodlums'. People coming up in here, saying these wild things need to get real.

This is precisely the problem. And what you don't get. AJ hanging out with some more forthright people who have a good understanding of his background and financial matters does not mean he needs to hang out with "hoodlums". His entourage and hangers on are all black guys from the inner city like him and yet 258 management and Matchroom is pretty much entirely run by middle class white dudes who clearly have no understanding (and likely no interest) in who Joshua actually is as a man. Being a grown adult is in no way indicative of controlling ones own destiny. Sport and boxing is littered with "grown men" who, in hindsight, had little control over their own careers.

This is why guys like Mayweather and Wilder are so ****ing loyal to Al Haymon. There definitely seems to be an appreciation for the optics of a upwardly mobile, educated black man guiding ones career over some *** or italian who looks down on you when you're not making him million whilst getting your head caved in.

[BangEM]

I think Joshua does act like the boss, and is in charge. I honestly don't think you can faultier Eddie Hearn, he is very compassionate towards Joshua.

But there is something amiss with Joshua's attitude, the constant laughing and joking, and wanting to be best mates with all of his opponents. I have no idea what that is all about, he cannot claim that he was influenced by Kiltschko 'Because Kiltschko never behaved in such ways'.

There was a distinct change in Joshua, and it did happen around Ruiz I. All the matey matey stuff, and then after Ruiz I he transcended into the obsession 'Even Hearn himself has alluded to this, he has stated that Joshua is over complicated everything. That is exactly what sport science does to athletes these days, a lot of it is just compartmentalization it is a science which dislike hollistic training 'Which boxing has historically been all about'.

I think Joshua will win the rematch with Uysk, and he will still scrap his way through the rest of his career. What people need to understand about Joshua, is that he does not fight the same fight twice 'He knows now that all the training he did for Uysk was not good enough, or optimal'.

The question is now, what adaptions will he make? Will they be the right ones? On your other thread, myself a few others all 'Seemed to think Joshua needs to go back to being himself, he is not a masterful boxer'. What won him Olympic Gold medals, was raw physicality, basic fundamentals and combination punching mixed in with a attitude that would not be denied.

It is all documented, if he wants to duplicated his former style Pre Ruiz I. He can reintroduce that lifestyle once again, and training 'He can do all of this'.

He's in charge but doesn't act like it. His biggest problem is that he trust The Hearns too much and it has ruined him and will continue to ruin him. The Hearns are the typical ***ish family and the only reason they care about AJ is because Matchroom became an empire in boxing on his back. But outside of that - they don't respect him as a person. They basically just see him as a commodity that's yielding a lot of returns. The way Hearn talked about him after his loss to Ruiz is a good pointer. He won't talk about Whyte like that because at least he fears him a bit. And he'll never talk about Chisora like that because he knows Del Boy doesn't give a fffck. I hate to say this but Hearn actually rate Katie Taylor than he rates AJ.

I read Twitter feeds after the fight and you need to see the amount of popular Brits with blue ticks that were backing Usyk during the fight and disrespecting AJ. Even the lil muppet that runs "Boxing Social". And it goes back to the Ruiz 2 where they all picked him to lose. I know a lot of that has to do with how successful he's but some of it also has to do with the fact that they don't respect him as a person. They don't do that with Whyte or Chisora. You know why? -it's because they fear them and they really grew up in London. If people can't respect you - make them fear you. Look at how Kugan talks to him compared to how he kisses Fury's arse - there's a difference and you should know why.

At the level AJ is, he's meant to be respected for everything he has done for British boxing. And the reason why he's not respected is due to how insecure he's and the idiotic nice guy posturing. You're in the hurt business and you have to make people fear you. And that carries into the boxing ring because he's trying to do too many things at once whilst trying to please everyone. All the endorsements would go away if he keeps losing. Fury is a cartoon character and he's not the toughest guy out there (he won't survive a day in the trenches) but due to his mean mouth - they all fear him and mostly watch what they say about him.

He needs to sort himself out - boxing isn't as complicated as he's trying to make it to be. Drop the idiotic nice guy nonsense. You don't have to talk recklessly like Fury, Whyte and Wilder. Just keep a straight face and be a meanie when you need to. Get rid of Rob - he has taken him as far as Rob can go and AJ is at a level where Rob isn't qualified to be. And start acting like a boss with The Hearns and keep it strictly business with your interests first (they don't care about it).

[The Big Dunn]

Rumor has it he was carrying a right arm injury into the fight which is very plausible considering the far less power punches he threw .

Here we go with the AJ fans making excuses.

Last time he was depressed or whatever. This time it’s his arm.

That you posted this after all the sh-t you talked about wilder and excuses is more proof you’re a cuck.

How about AJ just lost to a better fighter?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Utter nonsense…

[PRINCEKOOL]

He's in charge but doesn't act like it. His biggest problem is that he trust The Hearns too much and it has ruined him and will continue to ruin him. The Hearns are the typical ***ish family and the only reason they care about AJ is because Matchroom became an empire in boxing on his back. But outside of that - they don't respect him as a person. They basically just see him as a commodity that's yielding a lot of returns. The way Hearn talked about him after his loss to Ruiz is a good pointer. He won't talk about Whyte like that because at least he fears him a bit. And he'll never talk about Chisora like that because he knows Del Boy doesn't give a fffck. I hate to say this but Hearn actually rate Katie Taylor than he rates AJ.

I read Twitter feeds after the fight and you need to see the amount of popular Brits with blue ticks that were backing Usyk during the fight and disrespecting AJ. Even the lil muppet that runs "Boxing Social". And it goes back to the Ruiz 2 where they all picked him to lose. I know a lot of that has to do with how successful he's but some of it also has to do with the fact that they don't respect him as a person. They don't do that with Whyte or Chisora. You know why? -it's because they fear them and they really grew up in London. If people can't respect you - make them fear you. Look at how Kugan talks to him compared to how he kisses Fury's arse - there's a difference and you should know why.

At the level AJ is, he's meant to be respected for everything he has done for British boxing. And the reason why he's not respected is due to how insecure he's and the idiotic nice guy posturing. You're in the hurt business and you have to make people fear you. And that carries into the boxing ring because he's trying to do too many things at once whilst trying to please everyone. All the endorsements would go away if he keeps losing. Fury is a cartoon character and he's not the toughest guy out there (he won't survive a day in the trenches) but due to his mean mouth - they all fear him and mostly watch what they say about him.

He needs to sort himself out - boxing isn't as complicated as he's trying to make it to be. Drop the idiotic nice guy nonsense. You don't have to talk recklessly like Fury, Whyte and Wilder. Just keep a straight face and be a meanie when you need to. Get rid of Rob - he has taken him as far as Rob can go and AJ is at a level where Rob isn't qualified to be. And start acting like a boss with The Hearns and keep it strictly business with your interests first (they don't care about it).

When you mention Chisora and Whyte, yes I know what you are talking about 'That relationship dynamic'.

Joshua yes has let people get too comfortable with him 'And I don't think this is a good thing, even in life'.

Anyway, surely if adaptions are made training wise 'You are going to see them pretty soon, if this rematch is happening in February or March'.

I am just not sure ****Em, that Joshua wants to switch up on people. That is just my observation, he has kind of gone with certain attitude 'And keeps it on repeat'.

Right, I have said enough here.

[REDEEMER]

Here we go with the AJ fans making excuses.

Last time he was depressed or whatever. This time it’s his arm.

That you posted this after all the sh-t you talked about wilder and excuses is more proof you’re a cuck.

How about AJ just lost to a better fighter?

A.J looked out of place ,not following up power shots and not throwing his best punch was suspect,I’d bet the rumored injury is going to come to the media very soon . Not just that but very bizarre instructions in between rounds . Usyk was also seen walking into AJs training room holding the belts before the fight ,the entire thing was weird . Usyks a great fighter but he wasn’t that imposing where A.J couldn’t let his hands go , clearly at the end of the fight he looks severely in pain ,or did you not see that as well ? Ha

[BangEM]

Rumor has it he was carrying a right arm injury into the fight which is very plausible considering the far less power punches he threw .

Plausible and I'm sure someone leaked the intel to Usyk hence he came out swinging and was comfortable/confident throwing his left all night. Usyk has never been that confident/comfortable in his career letting his hands go early even against light punchers and I was shocked. The same thing happened against Ruiz and someone leaked it to Ruiz's camp and told him to target AJ's head.

Why didn't he pull out of the fight or get it postponed?

He was messed up a week leading up to the Ruiz fight, yet he went into the fight.

He was ill before the Povetkin fight yet he went into the fight.

There's a reason why boxers pull out of fights when they're not 100%. And this goes back to him acting like a slave for Hearn's financial gains. Taking a million dollar loss due to pushing a fight back is better than disgracing yourself in public and giving people ammunitions to attack your talent. This boils down to Hearn greed. Just tell the fans to keep their tickets and fight when you're 100% ok.

Let him keep acting like an idiot for The Hearn family until he ends up being brain damaged. Or perhaps this is a grand plan between him and Hearn for another moneygrab in Saudi Arabia. But it's going to bite him in the arse soon because most of the fans who support do so because they believed he's the best in the division. And when you keep losing fights you can win - ticket sales and PPV buys would keep going down.

[BangEM]

Here we go with the AJ fans making excuses.

Last time he was depressed or whatever. This time it’s his arm.

That you posted this after all the sh-t you talked about wilder and excuses is more proof you’re a cuck.

How about AJ just lost to a better fighter?

Not saying Redeemer is right. But have you ever seen Usyk coming out of the gates that aggressive especially with his left hand without worrying about what's coming back to him in his career?

[The Big Dunn]

A.J looked out of place ,not following up power shots and not throwing his best punch was suspect,I’d bet the rumored injury is going to come to the media very soon . Not just that but very bizarre instructions in between rounds . Usyk was also seen walking into AJs training room holding the belts before the fight ,the entire thing was weird . Usyks a great fighter but he wasn’t that imposing where A.J couldn’t let his hands go , clearly at the end of the fight he looks severely in pain ,or did you not see that as well ? Ha

Lmfao. All the garbage you personally spewed about excuses from Wilder.

You should be the last poster talking about this.

If he does tell us about some injury then he’s going to get skewered for making excuses again after the fact.

This captain sav a hoe sh-t makes you come off as an incredibly weak cuck.

Suck it up and call him out for excuses like you do Wilder.

[The Big Dunn]

Not saying Redeemer is right. But have you ever seen Usyk coming out of the gates that aggressive especially with his left hand without worrying about what's coming back to him in his career?

Look dude. You and Redeemer need to go hug or cuddle or whatever to get over the loss.

You 2 lost the right to talk about excuses after months of clowning Wilder for his.

Your man crush just got beat by a better boxer. It happens. Man up and deal with it.

Be thankful it wasn’t another mid tier American hwt. hahaha.