Comments Thread For: Usyk Stamps His Greatness With Impressive Win Over Joshua

[ShamrockXpress]

Well, look at Usyk face, and remember some of the middle rounds. He was close, just did not manage to stop. It is not only puncher chance, he could try to do what others were advising for big fighter vs small - smother, fight dirty, push, hang on Usyk, tire him out, etc. I think Usyk was not expecting a boxing match so much, so he put on weight and invested quite a bit of time in weight lifting, wrestling, etc, to increase stamina and have power to push back. I guess puncher chance + big man tactics would be what Joshua should do in the rematch, not try to box with a better boxer. I also suspect Joshua simply overlooked Usyk. He will not do that mistake again. I don't think Joshua's best form is necessarily better than Usyk's best form, but I won't be surprised one bit if in the rematch Joshua knocks him out.

What the **** are you talking about ? Landing a punch doesnt mean you nearly stopped someone

Uysk outboxed AJ the way everyone whos ever watched either fight knew he would, the only thing Saturday proved is Uysk has carried his pop and chin upto heavyweight

[Liondw]

If Usyk pressed a bit more late in the fight, he would've knocked Joshua out. I don't fancy AJ's chances in a rematch.

AJ couldn't make a second adjustment in the fight, he's very limited. But he did very well to win the titles twice. I can't see him beating Fury, and even Wilder would fancy his chances against Joshua.

But Usyk is the man, and Fury, who has what I suspect to be a very tough fight coming up against Wilder.

[nino brown21]

Not taking anything away from usyk he's one of my favs and I've been high on him on these forums but aj looked even more stiff and robotic then usual maybe he's losing whatever touch he had .

[MrShakeAndBake]

Usyk is a G! P4P #1 in my book.

Undefeated
Unified HW Champion.
Never used PEDS.
Never been knocked down.
No catch weight puzzy BS
Road Warrior, goes into boxers back yard and takes their belts.

Case closed

[Bob]

A great fighter. People are forgetting Usyk is a great fighter while they criticize AJ.

That's because the last 2 opponents that Aj faced that wernt grandads both beat him with speed.

[alexjust]

Usyk is a G! P4P #1 in my book.

Undefeated
Unified HW Champion.
Never used PEDS.
Never been knocked down.
No catch weight puzzy BS
Road Warrior, goes into boxers back yard and takes their belts.

Case closed

Case closed indeed. He's HOF already, but if he beats AJ for the 2nd time and then Fury or Wilder (less so Wilder), I'd say he can safely retire as an ATG. Top 10 ATG.

My concern is that the game might be rigged next time he fights AJ - something I was really concerned with when they fought this time. Ruiz was a fluke because Ruiz was never on AJ level, but with Usyk its different: it's AJ (whom I otherwise really like and respect) who is not on Usyk's level. Although what AJ achieved for his level of experience (~70 fights in total amateur and pro) is incredibly impressive, but he's simply not there yet. He won't get his skills raised to Usyk's level over the next 6 months, his tactics will most likely be fighting like a gorilla trying to make it a 6 round fight. Plus, given that this fight might very well be determining of the remainder of his career, he will need all the advantages he can get. Judges, referees, ring size, karaoke bar under Usyk's suite on the night before the fight - you name it. The stakes will be way too high for AJ, Matchroom and DAZN and all Usyk has is his team, talent, arms and legs and we can only hope that'll be enough. Luckily, it was enough this time, but it can also be because they bought too much into Chisora fight and were complacent.

Ideally AJ should take a year working on his craft and fighting different opponents.. Whyte, Joyce, Wilder (if he loses on Oct.9), but the risk then is that he might be unlikely to become an undisputed. And looking at what Usyk did, I now highly doubt AJ would have beaten Fury, as much as I wouldn't want it to be true.

[Bob]

Not taking anything away from usyk he's one of my favs and I've been high on him on these forums but aj looked even more stiff and robotic then usual maybe he's losing whatever touch he had .

It's no coincidence Aj looked so slow & robotic again, it's because he wasn't fighting another grandad like 4 of his last 6 were.
Funny how the last 2 opponents of Ajs generation have both beaten him with speed.

[JakeTheBoxer]

That's because the last 2 opponents that Aj faced that wernt grandads both beat him with speed.

Joshua is just afraid to trade the shots, that is why he has chosen the wrong way to fight again.

He should have tried to bully Usyk, make pressure, go more to the body, use clinching, that stuff..

he will never outbox much better boxer.

[Ropeydope]

This whole discussion would be very different IF Joshua would find that one lucky punch that he nearly landed on Usyk in the middle rounds. He could have landed it in the later rounds as well. Usyk is not unhittable. I am sure Usyk is probably by far not as certain as some of the commenters in his victory in the rematch. Joshua and his team saw what Usyk brings to the match, and they will make adjustments and will prepare. And they will be as close to a knock-out punch in the second match as they were in the first one. Usyk can mitigate the risk of such a punch to some degree, but this is heavyweight, and he is at a significant reach and some power disadvantage. So no matter how well you box, you are still just one blink away from eating that punch. It might also be that Usyk actually learned from the Joshua fight less than Joshua did. Usyk came in heavier than expected, but he did not give away too much in terms of speed and punch output. So he was heavier, but still fast, which may have been a surprise factor that gave him the advantage. In the rematch, Joshua will be ready, and will have a better strategy, while Usyk probably will be more or less the same. Based on that, I would rate Joshua chances to beat Usyk in the rematch quite a bit higher than 50/50. He would still be favorite to win the rematch, and Usyk still be an underdog.

LOL That’s a lot of words to demonstrate your complete denial of reality. At what point did AJ “almost ko him?” He had a decent 8th round, and landed a few isolated shots that were answered back 5 fold. AJ was completely outclassed. I’m not a hater or a fanboy, I’m completely objective here. AJ couldn’t land that punch, because Usyk took his weapons away from him. If he’d jumped on him he’d have walked onto one of those straight lefts and went down. Usyk will never stand in front of him and lazily await his uppercut, à la White, or old Wlad. Don’t forget, the Ukrainians have a lot of data uploaded to their lexicon as well. The rematch will be a carbon copy of the first or a Usyk ko.

[Jkp]

Anyone seen sidknee?