AJ is the biggest hype job of this generation and it isn't close

[Boxing-1013]

OP had the effing nerve to call AJ protected, how? if he was protected he wouldnt be going in against 6-6ft 3 elite boxers (both usyk and ruiz have a solid amateur backround) with quck reflexes, that's the style he lost the olympic final to. AJ clearly wasnt protected and wanted all the smoke, he was clearly going for the Fury fight.. Wilder has been a big joke. He cherry picked a 50% Fury and only picked Fury again when he saw the otto wallin performance. Likewise, even the guy he beat, Ortiz, had no real resume but they decided to brand him the 'boogeyman' and he has since fought eff all but Wilder all over again.


i'm fair minded about them all and don't overhype some of them. I can see their strengths and weaknesses. For example dubois lost to joyce and i see the utter crap comments when I defend him and say he would beat up Wilder.
'oh but he da bum,. he da ovahype job'
no mate, his qualities were neutralised by joe joyce with a granite chin and superior boxing skills, reach etc. Dubois landed enough times that if he put it on Wilder in the same manner, he would finish Wilder.



About Fury, kind of like Kell Brook when he beat Porter, Fury had the benefit of being a relatively unknown quantity at the highest level. He beat Wlad...outboxed him and trust me, I SUPPORTED FURY all the way, so not hating here. He didnt take the rematch and had the nandrolone controversy where he deliberately said hateful things to paint himself as a persecuted character and thus have a cover story for the drug ban.
He has come in by stealth, beating an UNPROVEN AND OVERHYPED wilder.

Fury does not have the best chin, we all know that. Wilder has many flaws because he can't box and is weirdly built. Perhaps Fury would outbox AJ, but would he consistently fight the likes of Aj, Joyce, Dubois, Hrgovic, Usyk, Jalolov etc...a bad night against that calibre would land him a loss. He doesnt fight back to back against tough opponents. He takes a break, low entropy fights, fake old testament convos with God and depression stories etc. eff that, im not going to overhype fury just cuz aj lost. They all are flawed.

The way i see it, there's so so much talent in the division but each one has it's flaws and can come up short.


Lastly, hype comes with performances. AJ was hyped when he was unbeaten and he deserved that 'hype' given all the guys he had beaten eg Wlad, Whyte, parker, povetkin. Since the Ruiz loss, people have used that against him. He was told he couldnt beat ruiz..and he did. He's now suffered another loss, he will receive all the criticism that comes with it. So where's the hype?

beyond pathetic some of what i read on here. low class cellar chavs some of you lot.

Lol...he fought his whole career at home, against guys hand picked with a name. If he had to really fight a decent guy in a neutral site his whole career he'd probably have like 5 losses by now.

And on the bold, thanks for pointing that out. Proves my point. He lost in the Olympics but yet again benefitted from the hype and they gave him the gold! You guys who are so upset by this and arguing against just keep proving my point.

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I'm in the UK and I knew he wasn't the formidable, undefeatable fighter the UK press made him out to be as early as his fight with Whyte. I don't understand how anyone could believe he was going to remain undefeated when he was so obviously rocked by Whyte.

[Boxing-1013]

What risks did that fraud Wilder ever take, just because AJ lost doesn’t suddenly project the delirious one back to top spot. Wilder has fought two good opponents in his whole career and they were perfectly chosen to be too old or just coming back from drink and obesity problems. We all seen what happened when he fought a fully fit Fury. If Wilder fought the route as AJ there wouldn’t be any questions hanging over him apart from the obvious big fight that never got made.

You say 2 opponents, but those were 4 fights!

Every big name is protected in some way, but AJ and Canelo are definitely the two most protected now as they are the 2 biggest stars. No one has really hyped Wilder up beyond saying that he can beat anyone with the right hand he has, which is just true.

[Boxing-1013]

I'm in the UK and I knew he wasn't the formidable, undefeatable fighter the UK press made him out to be as early as his fight with Whyte. I don't understand how anyone could believe he was going to remain undefeated when he was so obviously rocked by Whyte.

I feel like every fight he had since, he was in pretty serious trouble too.

[Boxing-1013]

Coming from the UK I have to agree that AJ is definitely carefully managed and Fury has always been the man to beat, but the most protected fighter is hands down Deontay Wilder. Stop trolling for attention

He is as well, but not like AJ. And no one really hypes up Wilder - we all know his boxing skills are very subpar for a great fighter but he has a great right hand that makes up for it.

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I still think Joshua's a good fighter. Failing to acknowledge that is a backhanded slight against Usyk. You can be a good fighter and still lose when you fight a great one. Joshua wasn't even the most overhyped fighter on Saturday night's card, that was Campbell Hatton.

Really? I've never heard of that guy

[PotentialToast]

Joshua has already had far more success than possible to be a hype job. He could go 0-10 in his next 10 fights and still not be a hype job.

Overrated? By a lot of people, yes.

But he is a solid heavyweight who has beaten some very good fighters, Hype Jobs are prospects who blow away tomato cans and lose to their first legit opponent, Jeff Lacy was a hype job, Seth Mitchell was a hype job, Victor Oriz and Andre Berto were hype jobs, James Kirkland was a hype job.

Joshua has 2 losses, one avenged and one to the P4P number 1 so it's not that bad is it.

Joshua was a unified world champion with multiple defences, if he was a hype job he would have lost to Takam, Parker, klitschko, Pulev. Those guys are all decent and capable of wins at top 10 level

That is just too rational for this forum!

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On the bold, that is part of the hype I'm pointing out. You're hyping him up to be a similar level to Wlad and he was far from it. He is an above average boxer who benefitted his entire career (see Olympics) from homefield advantage - and yes he apparently got a gift there - and from favorable matchmaking.

It is a huge benefit to always fight at home; even if you don't need the judges, there are still other obvious advantages to it, and again, having the judges if you need them is a huge bonus for a fighter. It means they just have to fight to be competitive. The pressure is really on the other guy to do something special.

''Since'' Wlad, AJ became the man to beat. Never have I said AJ was on Wlad's level
A guy fights for the right to be a shot caller. If a guy can't seem to win fights on the road, he can always retire.
Dethrone the king and have fighters come to you.

[Boxing-1013]

Ok so are we saying that Usyk’s win wasn’t all that impressive? Because we can’t have it both ways

AJ is a good fighter, and Usyk went and beat him convincingly in his own backyard. Usyk was also considerably smaller.

To pretty clearly outclass a good fighter on their own home turf when they have nearly every advantage going in will always be impressive.

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Two time WBA/WBO/IBF heavyweight champ with wins over Wlad, Povetkin, Pulev, Whyte is the most overrated guy in the last 10 years. You people are a joke.

Only one of those guys was under 40 years old at the time of the fight lol. You're the joke for actually typing that sh.it.