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  • Originally posted by Lupara View Post



    Hey man, if you believe Fury and Wilder have the better resumes, then cool.

    Like I said, all three are overhyped to Hell.

    Was just pointing out AJ has fought more diverse and varied opposition

    I could care less about the HW division at the moment except for my guy Usyk!!!

    War Usyk!!!
    Most wilder fans only were excited for the Knock outs nobody said he was this ATG he just has ATG power, Fury is the real deal for a big man with his skill set, i dont think they are overrated by their fans like AJ was by his fans, they were really on some ATG talk when it came to AJ.

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    • Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
      Brits love their fighters but constantly overrate them.
      pretty much this sums it up, great fans but sheesh it gets too crazy and becomes worship lol
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      • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

        I had no dog at all in the Loma/Teo fight. It played out more or less as I thought. Loma cautious early, and then coming on late. I didn't think it would take him 6 rounds to get going, but who cares. Better man won on the night, that's all I care about when I watch fights.

        That's why the 2 Canelo-GGG fights are a shame. Not because I care whether some 1/4 Asian, 3/4 Russian Kazakh gets a win. I have more in common with Canelo than I do GGG.

        The shame of those 2 fights are that Canelo had no business getting to 6 rounds in either one of them. Anyone arguing he did has really low standards for a fighter, and/or dksab.

        GGG haters and Canelo fanboys can revel in that 'victory' but they don't realize how pathetic they look, acting like that was a legit win lol.

        How low are your standards to act like Canelo could get 6 rounds in that fight, it's pathetic honestly

        Oh it's over two sentences, I'm not reading that


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        • Originally posted by uppercut510 View Post

          Most wilder fans only were excited for the Knock outs nobody said he was this ATG he just has ATG power, Fury is the real deal for a big man with his skill set, i dont think they are overrated by their fans like AJ was by his fans, they were really on some ATG talk when it came to AJ.
          Yeah, like I mentioned originally, I think all three are overrated by their fanbases

          But Joshua has definitely got the better CV

          They can all get in the bin though.

          This era is trash

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          • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

            I love how he is so sure that AJ would be Fury's best win too - as if KOing Wilder on the road, and upsetting Wlad on the road out of nowhere, can't possibly compare to beating AJ, who just got embarrassed by Ruiz. Insane thinking by some of these fans.
            Redeemer's a special poster.

            It'll be hard in his career to top Wlad. I'm a Wilder fan so for me that was his most impressive, but, impact on the sport wise I don't think anyone has a chance, including Tyson, to do that again or something like it.

            All he can do now is undisputed tbf. Good resume and undisputed, dude's got a strong legacy.
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            • Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

              You've got to be kidding me.

              It's about taking fights that you don't know you can win, and that you don't have the judges in your back pocket for. Loma has gone on the road and fought, and taken on tough fights at 135 as he moved up in weight.

              AJ and Canelo have fought in their own backyards (Canelo's backyard being Vegas in that scenario) where they can pick the best name available, have the judges on standby if needed, and can even use the terms of the fight to bully their opponents.

              I know you're a Canelosuperfan, and he is fighting great, but we can't ignore his very selective choices in his career - he takes on a good name, COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.

              Those are not real tests. Super A side fighters do not take real tests. This is just how it goes, it's logic 101. When you have the leverage, can get away with doing it, and have much to gain/lose by winning/losing, you will stack the deck in your favor.

              Acting like Canelo or AJ fights have been at face value is idiocy. I'm not even a Loma fan but he certainly has truly tested himself in the truest sense of the word, way moreso than those two guys.

              You can try and spin it however you want but it's obvious. It's pathetic to act otherwise. All 3 guys are good fighters, I'm not picking a winner among the 3 of them in this scenario. But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.

              When has Canelo or AJ ever fought on the road? Fighting at home means you get every decision in your favor - ask Canelo about that. It means you get the bell rung 6 seconds early when you're about to get KOed - ask AJ about that.
              So Canelo has only taken fights he knew he can win?

              I mean clearly, at this point, you are obviously trolling.

              You are an awful poster with terrible logic. This is not even worth discussing any further. But i’ll try one more time.

              AJ fought Ruiz in the US and Saudi Arabia.

              Canelo is from Mexico, and he is not even Mexican-American either. He fights on the road literally every fight. He fought Mayweather in Mayweather’s hometown. He fought Trout in his home state. Fought Jacobs in his home country.

              The last time Canelo fought a Ring top 5 fighter in his home country of Mexico was vs Ryan Rhodes.

              Canelo Alvarez fighting Americans in the United States, is literally him fighting away from home.

              ”But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.”

              I am not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Please record yourself on camera, saying your post out loud and post it here. This way I know you are real and I am not in some nightmare with a troll. Please, thanks.

              “COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.”

              Please list all of the championship fights and fights vs top 10 ranked opponents where the opponent fought Canelo with a supposed disadvantage that was created by Canelo. I am eager to read how you can stretch this.

              ”Canelo superfan”

              I praise Canelo, AJ and Lomachenko equally. Those are three of my favorite active fighters. Along with Pacquiao, Beterbiev, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz Jr, Josh Taylor. I do not have a little list like you of good fighters who I hate. Only fighters I currently would not praise at all are Terence Crawford and Devin Haney. And that is because they are “champions” with piss poor resumes, and THEY, really don’t challenge themselves vs the best. Haney and Crawford are what I would consider taking on non-challenging fights for their level.

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              • Originally posted by Marchegiano View Post

                Redeemer's a special poster.

                It'll be hard in his career to top Wlad. I'm a Wilder fan so for me that was his most impressive, but, impact on the sport wise I don't think anyone has a chance, including Tyson, to do that again or something like it.

                All he can do now is undisputed tbf. Good resume and undisputed, dude's got a strong legacy.
                The Wlad win truly came out of nowhere

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                • Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

                  So Canelo has only taken fights he knew he can win?

                  I mean clearly, at this point, you are obviously trolling.

                  You are an awful poster with terrible logic. This is not even worth discussing any further. But i’ll try one more time.

                  AJ fought Ruiz in the US and Saudi Arabia.

                  Canelo is from Mexico, and he is not even Mexican-American either. He fights on the road literally every fight. He fought Mayweather in Mayweather’s hometown. He fought Trout in his home state. Fought Jacobs in his home country.

                  The last time Canelo fought a Ring top 5 fighter in his home country of Mexico was vs Ryan Rhodes.

                  Canelo Alvarez fighting Americans in the United States, is literally him fighting away from home.

                  ”But Canelo and AJ have definitely been way more selective with their opponents than Loma.”

                  I am not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Please record yourself on camera, saying your post out loud and post it here. This way I know you are real and I am not in some nightmare with a troll. Please, thanks.

                  “COMPLETELY on Canelo's own terms, often times at a serious weight or timing advantage for Canelo.”

                  Please list all of the championship fights and fights vs top 10 ranked opponents where the opponent fought Canelo with a supposed disadvantage that was created by Canelo. I am eager to read how you can stretch this.

                  ”Canelo superfan”

                  I praise Canelo, AJ and Lomachenko equally. Those are three of my favorite active fighters. Along with Pacquiao, Beterbiev, Wilder, Fury, Ortiz Jr, Josh Taylor. I do not have a little list like you of good fighters who I hate. Only fighters I currently would not praise at all are Terence Crawford and Devin Haney. And that is because they are “champions” with piss poor resumes, and THEY, really don’t challenge themselves vs the best. Haney and Crawford are what I would consider taking on non-challenging fights for their level.
                  ? Canelo is the house fighter in Vegas. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. He is not losing in Vegas. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous.

                  I don't hate any fighters. I don't agree with the hype that some fighters get. And I say why I feel that way.

                  Canelo is a great fighter right now. He still has been using his A-side advantage for virtually all of his fights. This is not some secret, it's common knowledge. He's probably roided to hell right now too but I'm sure a lot of guys are so who cares really. Now it is another question though when he starts breaking people's faces, but he's the cash cow, people will look the other way on that if it's happening, which it almost certainly is.

                  But again he is fighting great. I have no hate for him, I like him a lot actually. I take more issue with his ped use personally than the A-side moves he has pulled. Anyone in his position would have done the same on the latter.

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