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    Anthony Joshua, has had a history of struggling with good southpaws since his amateur days : Mahammadrasul Majidov, Roberto Cammarelle, both arguably beat A.J before turning pro.

    Some of Oleksandr Usyk's facilitating attributes are common to another man that holds a victory over Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz. A compact frame, quick well-timed responses, sturdy chin and a constant work-rate, subjects Joshua to work at a pace that he can not manage well and gradually diminishes Anthony Joshua.

    Joshua already understood this based on previous experience, that is why he tried to pace himself and remained disciplined ; had he exerted greater offense early in the fight, the perilous scene that we witnessed in round 12 would of came earlier ; round three was a precursor to the violence and harm to come, it served as a strong warning for A.J.

    As Usyk was extremely sharp, slipping Joshua's primary weapon ( the jab ), and exploiting openings with regularity at a unexpected rate, Joshua was wise to not open up. However, I do agree that he will have to take that risk in the rematch, but will likely get stopped trying.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post


      Anthony Joshua, has had a history of struggling with good southpaws since his amateur days : Mahammadrasul Majidov, Roberto Cammarelle, both arguably beat A.J before turning pro.

      Some of Oleksandr Usyk's facilitating attributes are common to another man that holds a victory over Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz. A compact frame, quick well-timed responses, sturdy chin and a constant work-rate, subjects Joshua to work at a pace that he can not manage well and gradually diminishes Anthony Joshua.

      Joshua already understood this based on previous experience, that is why he tried to pace himself and remained disciplined ; had he exerted greater offense early in the fight, the perilous scene that we witnessed in round 12 would of came earlier ; round three was a precursor to the violence and harm to come, it served as a strong warning for A.J.

      As Usyk was extremely sharp, slipping Joshua's primary weapon ( the jab ), and exploiting openings with regularity at a unexpected rate, Joshua was wise to not open up. However, I do agree that he will have to take that risk in the rematch, but will likely get stopped trying.
      This is actually quite an intelligent and well written post. I know you get a lot of flack for your Wilder/ Fury posts but I think you knocked this one outta the park.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post


        Anthony Joshua, has had a history of struggling with good southpaws since his amateur days : Mahammadrasul Majidov, Roberto Cammarelle, both arguably beat A.J before turning pro.

        Some of Oleksandr Usyk's facilitating attributes are common to another man that holds a victory over Anthony Joshua, Andy Ruiz. A compact frame, quick well-timed responses, sturdy chin and a constant work-rate, subjects Joshua to work at a pace that he can not manage well and gradually diminishes Anthony Joshua.

        Joshua already understood this based on previous experience, that is why he tried to pace himself and remained disciplined ; had he exerted greater offense early in the fight, the perilous scene that we witnessed in round 12 would of came earlier ; round three was a precursor to the violence and harm to come, it served as a strong warning for A.J.

        As Usyk was extremely sharp, slipping Joshua's primary weapon ( the jab ), and exploiting openings with regularity at a unexpected rate, Joshua was wise to not open up. However, I do agree that he will have to take that risk in the rematch, but will likely get stopped trying.
        This analysis is pretty much spot on! The work rate in particular is a big problem for Joshua as the gas tank is definitely an issue. That being said, I think the only way he can win is by going for broke, getting close, more body shots and uppercuts. As you said though if he goes for it, may we’ll be stopped in the process. Still his best chance of winning imo.
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        • #14
          Its not as simple as "get rough early" against a fighter of Usyks ability. He will miss a lot, get caught a lot in return, and possibly gas himself out so he gets ****ed up even worse as the fight goes on. Usyk is not some big stationery target.
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          • #15
            AJ should maybe not even try.

            Two losses to the same guy back to back would ruin his career.

            Let Usyk fight Fury -Wilder winner for all the belts.

            Joshua should get 2 stay busy fights. He can fight the winner later.
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            • #16
              But since ruiz Josh has to protect chin can't just go ape s@*t

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              • #17
                I thought it was weird to that Aj really wasn’t letting his hands go. He tried to outbox the boxer and that was the wrong strategy. Chisora had success by roughhousing and Aj has to do the same. Use his physical advantage. Usyk dips to his right a lot so Aj should really work oh is left uppercut.

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                • #18
                  The "success" of Chisora is getting a bit overblown here. He was standing when the bell rang only because Usyk went a bit easy on him. Seems he did not want to scare off a big fish.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Patsfan bri View Post
                    I thought it was weird to that Aj really wasn’t letting his hands go. He tried to outbox the boxer and that was the wrong strategy. Chisora had success by roughhousing and Aj has to do the same. Use his physical advantage. Usyk dips to his right a lot so Aj should really work oh is left uppercut.
                    When the opponent in front of you is faster, sharper, quicker feet then you’ll be hesitant to even open up and attempt to impose your will. Even if Joshua tried to rough house him I don’t see it ending well for him. Joshua has bad stamina, is stiff and predictable. That’s a perfect recipe for a skilled boxer like Usyk. I don’t see any angle Joshua takes that beats Usyk.

                    he’s got his number and I think he knows it.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by RossW View Post

                      This analysis is pretty much spot on! The work rate in particular is a big problem for Joshua as the gas tank is definitely an issue. That being said, I think the only way he can win is by going for broke, getting close, more body shots and uppercuts. As you said though if he goes for it, may we’ll be stopped in the process. Still his best chance of winning imo.
                      No guts no glory .
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