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  • REDEEMER
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    #41
    Originally posted by Frankie Coffeecake


    Go back through any of the threads now and do a tally of people saying Usyk is too small, just to keep in mind for after the fight. There's a couple, but most are saying that it's crooked judges that will win AJ the fight. So if he wins cleanly I'm expecting a lot of credit to be given?

    Or am I naieve.
    After AJ wins you will get a slew of posters saying he defeated a Cruiserweight. It’s why you need a public poll on here to see who’s voting for who . This is a anti AJ forum you’ll see after the fight . Ha

    Is Usyk to small ? For AJ I believe but the Fury and Wilder fans will put the win under their guys they root for ,if AJ can do it it goes on the others resumes, that’s how the forum works . Ha
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-21-2021, 07:01 AM.

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    • Frankie Coffeecake
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      #42
      Originally posted by REDEEMER

      Chisora under Buddy McGirt looked far better then any previous Version of Chisora. Only reason it was somewhat competitive was Chisora was allowed to illegally hold and hit and use repeated low blows to Usyk but his boxing was levels above what we usually saw . Usyk still controlled him and made Chisora look amateurish well beyond mid rounds .
      Also to his point "suck off Usyk"

      Like what is he saying Usyk isn't legit and doesn't deserve credit.

      Usyk

      WBA
      WBC
      IBF
      WBO
      Ring Magazine
      Lineal (fury guys love that one)

      He won Olympic gold then turned pro and unified the division fighting every champion away within 16 fights.

      He got what Fury has and MORE in his own division, and did it in half the time and in just as dominant if not more so fashion. Fury has never unified.

      Now he's moved up and going in with Joshua first chance he could, away, again.

      But you don't want to give him any credit?

      The hell?
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      Last edited by Frankie Coffeecake; 09-21-2021, 07:02 AM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Frankie Coffeecake

        Also to his point "suck off Usyk"

        Like what is he saying Usyk isn't legit and doesn't deserve credit.

        Usyk

        WBA
        WBC
        IBF
        WBO
        Ring Magazine
        Lineal (fury guys love that one)

        He won Olympic gold then turned pro and unified the division fighting every champion away within 16 fights.

        He got what Fury has and MORE in his own division, and did it in half the time and in just as dominant if not more so fashion. Fury has never unified.

        Now he's moved up and going in with Joshua first chance he could, away, again.

        But you don't want to give him any credit?

        The hell?
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        Usyk is better then Wilder but he really does not match well against AJ . Should he find a way to win in my mind he’s the best because it’s the worst match up he can get at heavyweight for himself . I don’t believe he will come close to winning so even if he does make a legit close fight he’s better then I thought. I’m expecting even a possible fast knockout by AJ but even if that happens the others wouldn’t be able to do that but you will here how overatted Usyk was just because AJ did it .

        The forum is very topsy turvey filled with fanboys ,most forums are ,you will seldom here truths being told on here .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-21-2021, 07:10 AM.

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          #44
          Joshua is very good but overrated by many. Usyk is great but a lower weight class. Lots of potential scenarios. Probably best bet is Joshua on points.

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          • The plunger man
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            #45
            Originally posted by denium

            Usyk is turning up to get paid so obviously he's happy to be the B side and give Team Joshua all the usual advantages.

            Fury and Wilder won't stand for that s***, and the fact remains that Fury and Wilder are about to fight for a third time and Joshua has been unable to arrange a fight with either of them.
            both wilder and fury have now both tuned down a Joshua fight.......no once cares about the fury wilder fight end of story.
            usyk turning up for a payday is it....so what’s wilder doing then lol........as for credible fighters usyk is a forced mandatory and ex undisputed world champion who is unbeaten and highly skilled and is a dangerous fight for anybody.
            How do you sleep at night talking the kind of **** you talk lol
            Your gonna cry when the fury wilder gets put back again and fury loses his title for inactivity lol

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            • Fighter78
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              #46
              Say whatever you like...it doesn't change the fact that Usyk is getting blasted out of there at some point in the fight. Referee stoppage...AJ wins

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              • Monty Fisto
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                #47
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                Chisora under Buddy McGirt looked far better then any previous Version of Chisora. Only reason it was somewhat competitive was Chisora was allowed to illegally hold and hit and use repeated low blows to Usyk but his boxing was levels above what we usually saw . Usyk still controlled him and made Chisora look amateurish well beyond mid rounds .
                Yeah, Usyk was the clear winner. Chisora is a journeyman, but he is rough and tough and few look good against him. Usyk couldn't back him up, which is why we have to recognise Usyk's limitations at HW, but he was by far the better boxer and never looked in danger of losing. To call it going life and death is a misdescription that reveals Denium's bias.

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                  #48
                  Good story.....not to mention Joshua played it very safe against Ruiz in the rematch.....But Wladimir Klitschko went through the same thing imo.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto

                    Yeah, Usyk was the clear winner. Chisora is a journeyman, but he is rough and tough and few look good against him. Usyk couldn't back him up, which is why we have to recognise Usyk's limitations at HW, but he was by far the better boxer and never looked in danger of losing. To call it going life and death is a misdescription that reveals Denium's bias.
                    I wouldn’t label Chisora a journeyman just yet ,I had him winning against Parker and if he should defeat him and hurt him early who knows ? I think Chisora got a few bad calls as well besides Parker . I think he’s in the mix until he’s flattened out again .

                    This brings me to Usyk ,I only have 2 guys that confidently defeat him and that s AJ and Hrgovic. I think a good southpaw can cause Fury problems and I think Joyce is slightly favored over Usyk . I think Usyk would out box Wilder and a host of others then there’s questionable fights like Whyte ,Wallin and DDD who I still consider a real threat that could also have very close fights with Usyk .


                    Of course my opinion will change if Usyk wins on Saturday but I see it as a farce right now .

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                      #50
                      Interesting fight. AJ needing a second wind makes the mid-rounds very tricky for him... Usyk being a very slow starter makes the first 3-4 rounds extremely tricky for him.

                      Obviously there will be a % swing towards AJ on any close rounds. I'm ashamed to say that, but it's true.

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