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  • Slip jab
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    #11
    Usyk is a legitimate champ. So its unnecessary for the fangirls to overrate AJs opposition like usual. Like brezeale..who was his best opponent until someone knocked him out. AJ is SOLID..hes a great champ with no deficiencies obvious. The Ruiz loss is a perfect example of styles make fights n he maximized his handspeed advantage n caught AJ in an exchange. Imo that makes AJ better n it'll be a long time to see him lose. AJ beats fury but wilder stop's him. Why Hearn swerved that fight hard..instead of those 2 opponents(fury, wilder), fangirls have bn stuck hyping AJ opponents trying to justify those ducks
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    • DougalDylan
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      #12
      "Oh, it all looked wonderful for five years and 22 fights "

      Wilder his fellow Olympian hid in the States and fought someone who'ed lost their last six fights in his 23rd fight to pad a knockout percentage and were giving him cr*p for this,

      You push yourself you'll lose eventually but hopefully, he learned, if not at least he tried we'll find out when he gets to Fury.

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      • Kezzer
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        #13
        Originally posted by denium

        Usyk is turning up to get paid so obviously he's happy to be the B side and give Team Joshua all the usual advantages.

        Fury and Wilder won't stand for that s***, and the fact remains that Fury and Wilder are about to fight for a third time and Joshua has been unable to arrange a fight with either of them.
        So do you really think fury and wilder wouldn’t agree to a fight because Joshua had “all the usual advantages”?

        Please share these unfair advantages your concerned about.

        Fury had of course agreed to a deal which only fell through because of the wilder court case, so it’s only Wilder who hasn’t agreed terms with Joshua.

        Whyte, Klitschko, Pulev, Takam, Brezeale, Ruiz, Povetkin, Miller, Usyk, Fury all these fighters agreed to fight Joshua. Only Wilder hasn’t. Go figure.

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          #14
          Originally posted by denium

          Usyk is turning up to get paid so obviously he's happy to be the B side and give Team Joshua all the usual advantages.

          Fury and Wilder won't stand for that s***, and the fact remains that Fury and Wilder are about to fight for a third time and Joshua has been unable to arrange a fight with either of them.
          Hearn didn't want AJ facing Wilder.. That was a blatant obvious swerve smh. A loss to either is better than a loss to Ruiz

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          • Slip jab
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            #15
            Originally posted by Kezzer
            All boxers at heavyweight can lose a fight.

            None of wilder, fury or AJ have a perfect record anymore.

            Joshua has a record of fights which make me believe he is number one and until wilder or fury either takes on AJ or takes on a number of other valid opponents I’ll continue to think that.

            Usyk is a top class fighter though and considered small by many, he is still six foot 3 and we all know he is a gold medalist who cleaned up the cruiserweight in style. It’s nothing to do with Andy Ruiz and more to do with who Usyk is and why it’s a top match up.

            Joshua, like many credible opponents before him, appears to take the challenge on first of the top trio.
            But he still hasn't fought the top 2 guys at HW. Let's call it what it is

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            • Kezzer
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              #16
              Originally posted by No look hook

              But he still hasn't fought the top 2 guys at HW. Let's call it what it is
              that’s only if your opinion is that wilder and fury is top two and that’s now. When he fought Klitschko, was he one of the top2 opponents he could face? When he fought Parker was he one of the top2 opponents he could face? I would have argued both cases the answer is yes.

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              • Slip jab
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                #17
                Originally posted by OnlytheTruth

                I agree. Thumbs up.

                On the subject of fighting Wilder and/or Fury, there is just far too much cloak and dagger when it comes to these deals being made with those two. We know there was a genuine offer for Wilder that he refused to fight Fury. We know there was a deal (that Hearn put together) to fight Fury. So there is no hiding the fact that Joshua wants them both - or, as he put it; whoever has the belt.

                Fury has talked up Usyk a lot, as well. This is a good fight for the division. A Champion taking on a dangerous mandatory, no questions asked.

                In comparison to the deals to fight Wilder and Fury, it has been a breeze to get the fight against Usyk made. To me, its not hard to read between the lines and see where the issue lies.
                We also know Hearn was scared to match AJ with either..had he, AJ could very well be #1 at HW.. difficult to rate him at 2 when he hasn't faced Fury.
                I think he eventually defeats fury.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by OnlytheTruth

                  I agree. Thumbs up.

                  On the subject of fighting Wilder and/or Fury, there is just far too much cloak and dagger when it comes to these deals being made with those two. We know there was a genuine offer for Wilder that he refused to fight Fury. We know there was a deal (that Hearn put together) to fight Fury. So there is no hiding the fact that Joshua wants them both - or, as he put it; whoever has the belt.

                  Fury has talked up Usyk a lot, as well. This is a good fight for the division. A Champion taking on a dangerous mandatory, no questions asked.

                  In comparison to the deals to fight Wilder and Fury, it has been a breeze to get the fight against Usyk made. To me, its not hard to read between the lines and see where the issue lies.
                  Ur really trying to convince yourself that AJ did in fact, make a serious attempt to secure the top guys at heavyweight.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by No look hook

                    Ur really trying to convince yourself that AJ did in fact, make a serious attempt to secure the top guys at heavyweight.

                    let me swing this round then.

                    Who has wilder fought? He’s basically taken on two men, one of which was coming off a huge layoff and appeared to be a great time to take him on. The other has never fought anyone himself. He’s come away with a 1-1-1 record and still hasn’t taken on Joshua, povetkin, klitschko, Parker, Ruiz, whyte, etc.

                    who has fury fought? He’s basically taken on two men, one of which was his big shot the big time and the other he was in a no lose situation because of his big layoff. He’s come away with a 2-0-1 record and actually is quite lucky not to have been stopped in one of his gimme fights against Wallin. He still hasn’t taken on Joshua, Povetkin, Ortiz, Parker, Ruiz, Whyte, etc .

                    Joshua is miles ahead in terms of resume, so it’s a silly argument for you to be making. Posting several different responses to the same post doesn’t make your argument more credible either, just post the once as have your opinion.

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                      #20
                      Joshua always looked vulnerable. It's one of the things that makes his fights exciting. Yes, he feels more vulnerable post Ruiz, but he can also beat anyone, and has the cajones to actually take on challenges.

                      I've never seen what's not to like about him. Is it that he's not perfect? No, he's not.

                      Usyk can certainly beat him. I mean, that's why people will watch the fight.

                      Don't worry about his performance v Chisora. I actually rate that performance. Chisora loses against most of the top 10, but he keeps coming and makes them look worse than they wanted to. Let's not forget that Fury got booed repeatedly against Chisora. He had no desire to make it an exciting fight. Chisora is one of those guys who you're just happy to beat and not worry about the performance.
                      Last edited by Toffee; 09-21-2021, 04:12 AM.

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