Why do some fans demand fighters to do what past greats do?

[-Kev-]

In addition to this there is a very warped sense of what fighters did back in the day.

For instance the Duran thread about moving up.

Duran deserves credit for all of his great wins. That said, he moved up because he wasn’t disciplined in between fights.

His eating and drinking, partying, and lack of sleep made him gain huge amounts of weight that he could no longer get off.

When a guy like GGG, who I’m no fan of,stays at one weight his whole career, that shows discipline and training that should be emulated and appreciated, not scorned because he didn’t ”move up.”

That’s a good point about fighters like Hagler and GGG.

Problem is, it depends on if the fans like the fighter or not.

For example, Canelo is expected to go up to 175 and fight Beterbiev and Bivol. Why? Because he has been moving up in weight class, so since he is moving up in weight classes, his critics see that and demand who they want him to fight across 168-175.

But the same fans did not want to see GGG go up to 168 to fight Ward. But they were also okay with GGG moving up to 168 to fight Chavez Jr and 166 for Froch.

Basically, my favorite fighter does not have to take any risks. But your favorite fighter, who I despise, must fight the best in his weight class, the best in the weight class below him and the best in the weight class above him.

Why? Because Sugar Ray Leonard did it. So, he should do it too because he is just as great as SRL (i’m assuming that is their thought process).

[#1PaperChamp]

For nearly 15 years posting here, this never gets old.

Critics of certain fighters have such clouded judgement of hatred that they don’t realize they are insulting past greats by pretending that any good top 10 boxer can do what the legends did.

Like…”so and so is not great because he could not do what [insert top 10 ATG] did.”

Okay, has it ever occurred to these sorts of fans, what the legendary ATG did in his career was part of what placed them so highly as one of the best?

“So and so fought the most HOF fighters in history. Top fighter from the present could not do that so he sucks, is a fraud.”

Boxing is a very tough and grueling sport to be successful in. A boxer being the best of his era does not mean he needs to replicate what past greats did. Or that he can do exactly what they did.

You are either subconsciously putting the fighter you are criticizing on a pedestal. Or you don’t think very highly of the past greats/HOFers and expect the current top fighters

It’s nearly impossible to copy an ATG career and be successful at it. Pay your respects to those who had ATG careers and move on. It is extremely hard to have an ATG career. Especially a carbon copy of one.

First off, youre an idiot

Secondly, fans want fighters to acheive greatness. Naturally they want fighters to do what past greats did AND MORE.



If you cant comprehend this then finish your GED

[Lomadeaux]

I highly doubt that back in the day ALL fighters did what ATG’s did. Highly doubt it. Especially when talking, specifically in plain English, a copy of what ATG’s did. Meaning winning.

I am not talking about the Emmanuel Augustus and DeMarcus Corley of boxing. I am talking about ATG’s who actually won and did great things.

It’s extremely hard to do that.

And you should know since you said you have boxed. So you should know what I am talking about.

Men were men back then. They fought so often and they fought everyone. You're blind dude... It is extremely hard to be the Joe Louis' and The Ray Robinsons... Yes... That's why there's so few...

[djtmal]

Great fighters set the barometer for those who come after.

So Floyd falls way short since he couldn't beat the best guys on his resume in their prime.

[LeOoze]

So Floyd falls way short since he couldn't beat the best guys on his resume in their prime.

Pac lost 10 rounds to a past prime Floyd. LOL. Pac will be retiring with his last fight being an L to a bum in Ugas.

[djtmal]

Pac lost 10 rounds to a past prime Floyd. LOL. Pac will be retiring with his last fight being an L to a bum in Ugas.

Floyd digressed to cherrypicking boxers who never boxed.

[The Big Dunn]

That’s a good point about fighters like Hagler and GGG.

Problem is, it depends on if the fans like the fighter or not.

For example, Canelo is expected to go up to 175 and fight Beterbiev and Bivol. Why? Because he has been moving up in weight class, so since he is moving up in weight classes, his critics see that and demand who they want him to fight across 168-175.

But the same fans did not want to see GGG go up to 168 to fight Ward. But they were also okay with GGG moving up to 168 to fight Chavez Jr and 166 for Froch.

Basically, my favorite fighter does not have to take any risks. But your favorite fighter, who I despise, must fight the best in his weight class, the best in the weight class below him and the best in the weight class above him.

Why? Because Sugar Ray Leonard did it. So, he should do it too because he is just as great as SRL (i’m assuming that is their thought process).

Part of the problem is some posters can’t grasp that Society and the people who run the sport have changed.

The networks treat their top boxers like entertainers not fighters. They fight on certain dates. They don’t fight guys who work for other networks. They don’t fight more than 3 times a year at most.

This is exacerbated by a society where there is huge focus on head injuries, concussions, dementia and other long term injuries, long time sports like boxing and football are not the same.

[The Big Dunn]

Pac lost 10 rounds to a past prime Floyd. LOL. Pac will be retiring with his last fight being an L to a bum in Ugas.

You’re dealing with one of those cum gurgling Manny stans that really doesn’t know anything about boxing other than cum gurgling Manny and being angry that Floyd beat him and is better than him.

[-Kev-]

Men were men back then. They fought so often and they fought everyone. You're blind dude... It is extremely hard to be the Joe Louis' and The Ray Robinsons... Yes... That's why there's so few...

It is not about fighting everyone.

It’s beating everyone like ATG’s did.

That’s what’s hard.

And yeah they fought so often…but what level of fighters? That’s called padded records.

And FYI, I prefer that. I would like that back. Padded records meant you can see fighters more often. You can watch boxing more often. Guys would get developed better.

And I am not entirely sure how you can say a man is not a man in boxing today. Most of those top guys you are questioning would probably kick your ass and my ass on the same day. They will probably make you question your manhood after a good beating.

Also, do you still box? If so, where do you box? Where do you train? (City/state)

[-Kev-]

Part of the problem is some posters can’t grasp that Society and the people who run the sport have changed.

The networks treat their top boxers like entertainers not fighters. They fight on certain dates. They don’t fight guys who work for other networks. They don’t fight more than 3 times a year at most.

This is exacerbated by a society where there is huge focus on head injuries, concussions, dementia and other long term injuries, long time sports like boxing and football are not the same.

Yeah. I mean it is obvious why fighters can’t fight twice a week anymore. But you will have guys come on here pretending to be tough and crazy, and like they are tougher than pro boxers themselves. It’s amusing. And you see how insulting they become on the internet while arguing for or against a fighter. I mean seriously, I wish boxingscene had an actual physical meeting spot where we can all just box our asses off. That way that poster who is so quick to call others names and insults can finally show the balls he claims some of these pro fighters don’t have. He can show his manliness