Who isn't actually undefeated Calzaghe or Mayweather Jr?

[prtyboybladeage]

Last I checked they both haven't lost. so...yeah.....

[Shattered Jaw]

Calzaghe and Floyd are deffinitely comparable.

Calzaghe obtained 2 ring/regognised titles and remained unfefeated.

Floyd obtained 3 ring/regognised titles and remained undeafeted.

Both fought for ~40+ fights.

Calzaghe has good wins on his resume: Eubank, Reid, Kessler, Lacy, Hopkins, Jones (6)
Floyd has good wins on his: Hernandez, Gatti, Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, DLH. (8)

Both great fighters, both totally undeafeted (thus far).

[jpitt]

comparing calz to floyd is a real insult to floyd

God, I hope Floyd loses to JMM.

[Pullcounter]

Calzaghe and Floyd are deffinitely comparable.

Calzaghe obtained 2 ring/regognised titles and remained unfefeated.

Floyd obtained 3 ring/regognised titles and remained undeafeted.

Both fought for ~40+ fights.

Calzaghe has good wins on his resume: Eubank, Reid, Kessler, Lacy, Hopkins, Jones (6)
Floyd has good wins on his: Hernandez, Gatti, Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, DLH. (8)

Both great fighters, both totally undeafeted (thus far).

not really.

floyd's early career trumps calz's, not to mention floyd's skills >>>>>>>>>>>> calz skills.

calz is a good fighter tho... fighting is intuitive for him, not so much a science like floyd.

[Pullcounter]

God, I hope Floyd loses to JMM.

he'd still be better than calz imho.

[Dan...]

Another **** thread.

Both are undefeated.

[Shadows]

They're both undefeated. Both had close fights, but so does every fighter.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I thought Castillo beat Floyd but it could've gone either way and he avenged it in the rematch. Reid himself thought he lost to Joe, it was very close though. Hopkins made Joe look bad but didnt beat him - people dont seem to be able to distinguish between the two.

[Freddy Krueger]

Another **** thread.

Both are undefeated.

Yes, the topic is so **** it shows people on this poll believe that not to be the case. Anyone can have a win on their resume just ask Sven Ottke.

[hookoutofhell]

how is the reid fight still an issue? reid himself admitted that he had lost the fight and that calz was a worthy winner?

anyways calz and floyd are comparable both are modern ATG's, both have their critics especially over their un-fan friendly styles and both have disputed wins on their records. for the record i think the castillo fight was a closer fight than the hopkin/calz fight but this might just be the calz fan in me winning me over and the fact that i haven't seen the castillo/mayweather fight for a long time.

imo both get alot of undeserved flack for their styles, calz is accused of being a slapper and lacking technique. however this criticism ignores calz's improvisation and craftiness, he has developed an effective style that suits him. how many other fighters can you name rely on their output, stamina and speed as they get older rather than their punch, timing and accuracy.

floyd has also had to put up with some unfair criticism, often accused of being a runner, a cherry picker or simply boring, but floyd rematching castillo shows that he is far from a cherry picker. like calz he has had hand problems, whereas calz's hand problems lead him to increase workrate pbf did the opposite. as a a result he is often accussed of pot-shotting his way to victory but that doesn't he mean he lacks offence (youtube pbf vs chico and you'll see what im talking about).

the common thread in both their careers and the criticism directed at them seems to stem from their recent body of work rather than their career as a whole e.g for calz the critique is that he is a lucky chump who cashed in by beating faded versions of rjj and hopkins, for pbf its that he is a coward afraid to engage and boring his opponent to death. i think it will only be a few years from now when we will truly appreciate both these guys careers.