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  • billeau2
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    #41
    Wallin has his moment. It's a winnable fight for him. If he does well, and can handle Whyte then it's George Jefferson time (moving on up).

    My heart is for Wallin. If Whyte is not in great shape I think Wallin will win. If Whyte is in great shape I think he will win.
    Last edited by billeau2; 09-17-2021, 04:10 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by billeau2

      I wouldn't say a bum... but I agree that Wallin managed to make a fight of it. But it's not like he capitolized... if he had been Excellent he would have targeted that eye and forced them to end the fight.
      He was targeting the eye a bit to much ,even raked it at one point with his glove thumb . You can hear Gamache tell Wallin keep targeting the eye in the corner but they also admitted they stopped intelligently boxing once the eye opened up and stopped mixing the punches up to the level they were doing . Fury was very lucky the blood didn’t effect his vision .,I’d have to watch it again but I remember Fury being aware of head hunting ,Wallin stopped boxing a lot and trying to bust the eye open instead of set a lot up on points . Wallins at his best working those body shots ,vs Whyte it will be interesting both are great body punchers .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-17-2021, 04:13 PM.

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        #43
        Originally posted by REDEEMER

        He was targeting the eye a bit to much ,even raked it at one point with his glove thumb . You can hear Gamache tell Wallin keep targeting the eye in the corner but they also admitted they stopped intelligently boxing once the eye opened up and stopped mixing the punches up to the level they were doing . Fury was very lucky the blood didn’t effect his vision .,I’d have to watch it again but I remember Fury being aware of head hunting ,Wallin stopped boxing a lot and trying to bust the eye open instead of set a lot up on points . Wallins at his best working those body shots ,vs Whyte it will be interesting both are great body punchers .
        Absolutely spot on.

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          #44
          Originally posted by REDEEMER

          He was targeting the eye a bit to much ,even raked it at one point with his glove thumb . You can hear Gamache tell Wallin keep targeting the eye in the corner but they also admitted they stopped intelligently boxing once the eye opened up and stopped mixing the punches up to the level they were doing . Fury was very lucky the blood didn’t effect his vision .,I’d have to watch it again but I remember Fury being aware of head hunting ,Wallin stopped boxing a lot and trying to bust the eye open instead of set a lot up on points . Wallins at his best working those body shots ,vs Whyte it will be interesting both are great body punchers .
          Wallin may have tried too hard to target the eye... I remember the "rake" fury got really pissed lol. Fury benefited because he showed he was fighting back hard... this gave the ref a reason not to stop the fight... Nobody would have protested if the ref waved it off.

          So at the end of the day whether Wallin made too much of a focus on the eye, or didn't attack it the question becomes what Wallin learned from that fight.. will it up his game? His confidence?

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            #45
            Originally posted by The plunger man
            piss off you didn’t even know who wallin was lol
            you say wallin is one to watch and you think he beats whyte so he ain’t that bad.
            fury was champion in all but name due to beating wilder 9 rounds to 3 the first fight so yeah he had every right criticise fury ..,plus fury had two soft touches before.
            we had no idea how good wallin was at the time and his testing fury rose his stock....you cannot go back on a tweet that was made over 2 years ago when wallin was untested what’s wrong with you lol
            This was my assessment on the fight before Fury .


            “Otto Wallin like it or not is going to give Fury a 12 round difficult fight . He's over 6'5 , fast ,great movement and footwork and he's not in his late 40's.

            I'm making the thread to remind the forum what I've been saying over a month now and after the fight that Wallin took on a much better shape Fury then Wilder did too.

            There seems to be a lot of selective memory on here always , just don't make excuses like Fury is overrated because he's in one of the best shapes he's been in his entire career .

            Ortiz is not the best southpaw it's Young Otto " All In " Wallin , you'll see who's still fighting better competition then Wilder is.”

            In defense of denium he did place Wallin as a possible abilities to defeat Wilder ,wheather it’s because he was fighting Fury ,IDK ? But I really did study Wallin for the limited footage available then and heard of him awhile in the up and comers .

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              #46
              Originally posted by billeau2

              Wallin may have tried too hard to target the eye... I remember the "rake" fury got really pissed lol. Fury benefited because he showed he was fighting back hard... this gave the ref a reason not to stop the fight... Nobody would have protested if the ref waved it off.

              So at the end of the day whether Wallin made too much of a focus on the eye, or didn't attack it the question becomes what Wallin learned from that fight.. will it up his game? His confidence?
              Wallins a national hero in his country,I watched many interviews of him prior to the Fury fight to grasp who he actually is outside the ring and he came across as someone that’s not going to be defeated so easy unless you maybe catch him cold ,certain fighters just have that energy around them . The Whyte fight should be a great one ,Wallin has improved on putting power shots together I saw in the Breazeale fight ,only Breazeales chin held him up in some clean shots .

              I believe Wallin will win he’s in shape 24/7 and you couldn’t get a better fit for him then Joey Gamache where Whyte is still experimenting with trainers ,it’s a big advantage even at the 02 .
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 09-17-2021, 04:42 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by denium

                Wallin is a top level fighter, and was when Fury fought him, anyone who followed the division knew who he was. I guess all the casuals on here don't really watch enough HW boxing.
                Come on man! I live next door to Otto Wallin and I didnt even know who he was!

                I think me and him went fishing together once I STILL DUNNO who he was until he fought Fury

                And im a certified Tyson Feary hater. the resident HATER on the forum. And I will stay hating on him until he fights Wilder again, if he wins fair and square i will give him his credit no doubt

                But to answer your quesiton: Yeah Eddie "NotAttheHospitalWithBillyHoe" Hearn is a snake. Cant trust anything he says. Just take one good look at him and anyone with street smarts would figure out this guy is no good.

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                  #48
                  Fury made this guy a bigger name by effectively losing to him (it should’ve been stopped). We may well see whyte stop him in a way that makes fury’s fight look even worse!

                  for a tick over fight this ain’t a bad one given the fury wallin fight has happened in my view, Infact a clever one.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    This was my assessment on the fight before Fury .


                    “Otto Wallin like it or not is going to give Fury a 12 round difficult fight . He's over 6'5 , fast ,great movement and footwork and he's not in his late 40's.

                    I'm making the thread to remind the forum what I've been saying over a month now and after the fight that Wallin took on a much better shape Fury then Wilder did too.

                    There seems to be a lot of selective memory on here always , just don't make excuses like Fury is overrated because he's in one of the best shapes he's been in his entire career .

                    Ortiz is not the best southpaw it's Young Otto " All In " Wallin , you'll see who's still fighting better competition then Wilder is.”

                    In defense of denium he did place Wallin as a possible abilities to defeat Wilder ,wheather it’s because he was fighting Fury ,IDK ? But I really did study Wallin for the limited footage available then and heard of him awhile in the up and comers .
                    Fury showed in that fight, how much he has regressed. He was not hard to find, where was the movement? And his defense on the inside and mid-range was below par.

                    Wallin is no great shakes, he is not fast and his movement is nothing special ether 'He is just another big super heavyweight, who he has grasped the basics of boxing'.

                    I think the power of Whyte and aggression will undo Wallin.

                    The only thing that concerns me about Whyte is his conditioning.


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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      Otto is a bigger name now than he was then. Was he even ranked top 30 when Fury fought him? Nobody had heard of the guy. The fact you hold Whyte (who everyone calls a bum) to the same standard as Fury speaks volumes too.
                      This about sums it up. The circumstances are different.

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