Lets settle it. Should Lomachenko get a rematch?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #81
    Originally posted by Cypocryphy

    Just watch the last video then. That’s real time. Just watch it before you pass judgment.
    Come on man. I’m not doing videos.

    How did you score the fight in real time?

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      #82
      Originally posted by LeOoze

      Just like the *******s who made biased slow motion videos to miraculously give Pac the win against Floyd
      My issue is the fans of the guys that lose always make a video claiming their guy won.

      They never can accept their guy lost.

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        #83
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

        I think Loma would have given him a rematch tbh, especially looking at their realistic options. Let’s be real, neither of the two are fighting Tank, Garcia or Haney due to promotional and network politics so they may as well fight each other again rather than Nakatani or Kambosos.

        There aren’t many better fights than Lopez-Loma 2 at 135 in all honesty. I actually think the rematch is interesting too, I wanna see it.
        I don’t. Historically no rematch clause has meant one and done.

        I can’t see why Loma and Bob would be different now.

        I think that is why Teo started talking about Taylor- no Loma rematch and wasn’t gonna fight Haney.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy
          It's a no-brainer. You take the rematch. Just like Floyd did with Castillo. Just like he did with Maidana. Just like Morales did with Pacquiao. Or Pacquiao did with Barrera. Or Marquez did with Pacquiao. Just like ALL OF THESE LEGENDARY FIGHTS. Those are the fights that we still talk about and watch. Like I said, it's a NO-BRAINER.
          That was a 1-2 round fight. This was like 4-5 rounds ahead for Lopez. You're a no-brainer!

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            #85
            Originally posted by Cypocryphy
            It's a no-brainer. You take the rematch. Just like Floyd did with Castillo. Just like he did with Maidana. Just like Morales did with Pacquiao. Or Pacquiao did with Barrera. Or Marquez did with Pacquiao. Just like ALL OF THESE LEGENDARY FIGHTS. Those are the fights that we still talk about and watch. Like I said, it's a NO-BRAINER.
            Yes but in those fights you mentioned each opponents were letting their hands go. We all know Loma is a great fighter but he fought for 6 rounds and expects a rematch. His performance does not warrant a rematch it was not a really captivating fight because of him, Teo pressed the action.

            What the point of rematch clauses if you can still lose a fight and get it anyway because you want another crack. Teo may well be apprehensive but he beat him his last fight he is not obliged to try and help LOMA create history.Teo has his takeover to fulfil too

            I bet i can name more legendary fights than you named that were by far closer than Teo vs Loma and yet there were no rematches so they are in good company

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              #86
              Originally posted by sicko

              Loma...GAVE Lopez nothing, Lopez TOOK from Loma after he "EARNED" his opportunity as a shot at Loma by facing Nakatani and Commey

              So yeah This Entitlement for Loma is BS and is it likely one of the reasons why Teofimo has no interest in a rematch because he as well as some of his Hardcore Fanboys have this Arrogance and just refuse to give Teofimo credit for that 1st Fight. Teofimo doesn't have to fight Loma ever again, he can drop all those Belts at 135 and go fight Josh Taylor instead so he don't NEED to rematch Loma
              True, teo don't need to give rematch to lomo. As t eo and his fans are reasonable, unlike another fanbase, t eo won't go on about how amazing the win was over lomo. T eo will try better it and won't try live off of the win, and won't boast about it being so great a win and there is nothing lomo can do to equal the win as teo will always have that win over lomo.
              lomo don't need the rematch but just thought fans might like it. Whats so wrong with 2 talented fighters doing it again? Why people so su****ious of rematch es nowadays, there's a paranoia that exists now
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-16-2021, 06:46 PM.

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                #87
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                I don’t. Historically no rematch clause has meant one and done.

                I can’t see why Loma and Bob would be different now.

                I think that is why Teo started talking about Taylor- no Loma rematch and wasn’t gonna fight Haney.
                If he goes to 140 then fair enough, but if he stays at 135, I don’t see a better realistic option than the Loma rematch.
                Last edited by RJJ-94-02=GOAT; 09-16-2021, 06:43 PM.

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                  #88
                  I wouldn't mind seeing a second fight, Loma performed well in the second half and I would like to see if he can start off better. He isn't owed anything though

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                    Come on man. I’m not doing videos.

                    How did you score the fight in real time?
                    I do suggest you watch it. I think it's food for thought. As to how I scored it, I gave Lopez rounds 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 12. Loma had rounds 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11. I had rounds 2 and 12 as swing rounds.

                    I had it a DRAW.

                    It's weird, but whenever I watch a fight and don't score it while Ward is commentating, I always think Ward is crazy. But whenever I score a fight, it almost always comes out exactly as Ward. Never fails.

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                    • Cypocryphy
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony

                      Yes but in those fights you mentioned each opponents were letting their hands go. We all know Loma is a great fighter but he fought for 6 rounds and expects a rematch. His performance does not warrant a rematch it was not a really captivating fight because of him, Teo pressed the action.

                      What the point of rematch clauses if you can still lose a fight and get it anyway because you want another crack. Teo may well be apprehensive but he beat him his last fight he is not obliged to try and help LOMA create history.Teo has his takeover to fulfil too

                      I bet i can name more legendary fights than you named that were by far closer than Teo vs Loma and yet there were no rematches so they are in good company
                      Teofimo can do whatever the hell he wants. Even if he had a rematch clause doesn't mean he has to fight Loma again. How many times have there been contracts that have been breached? For one reason or another? There would obviously be consequence but it doesn't mean it's a guarantee. The issue is whether Teofimo is letting the majority of boxing fans down by not giving a rematch. The other issues is whether Teofimo's excuse to not give Loma a rematch is justified.

                      If he just said that he's going to fight someone else and is working on that fight, then I'd say fine. But that's not the case. He doesn't have anyone lined up after Kambosos. The guy he wants to fight looks as if he's leaving the division. The whole point was for Teofimo to have a chance to unify to divisions. But Taylor said that it wouldn't work because Teofimo is not undisputed and has to fight Haney first and beat him. So it appears that it's not going to happen.

                      That leaves one fight for Lopez on which to make a ton of money. He said it was easy to beat Loma and could do again easily. Worse than before. So it's a super easy fight for Teofimo. On top of it, he stands to make more money than he's ever made before, which as a prize fighter, you'd think that means something. It's a guaranteed, easy fight to make, much easier than the Taylor fight. But Teofimo's excuse is that "Lomachenko wouldn't have given me a rematch." And that's where things really start to smell like ****. First, Loma has never said he'd never give Lopez a rematch. If anything, he'd gladly give Lopez a rematch just for a chance to put a beat down on the kid again. That's obvious. Then there's this Loma never gives anyone a rematch. But who has asked for a rematch?! I can think of only one person and that would be Gary Russell Jr. But he only said this much later, and there's been no reports of a petition or contract ever being sent to Loma. We would have heard about it. Instead we just hear about Gary trying to fight Tank, Haney, Crawford, just a bunch of people other than Loma.

                      So Teofimo's reasoning sounds like bull****. And if you think about it logically, it starts to sound idiotic too. Maybe he could say: "well, maybe I fight Loma again. It just depends one what happens with Taylor." But that's not what he's saying. He's shooting it down with some knee-jerk, dumbass excuse. It's a bad look for Teofimo and makes him look scared. It just does.

                      It also lets down many boxing fans and hurts Teofimo's reputation.

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