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  • Jab jab boom
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    #141
    Originally posted by Bronx2245
    Nice try but your quote does not prove that Arum made two offers to Porter, that he declined. What Porter said was "...to even begin at $2 million is an insult..." He didn't say they offered him $2 million! Plus he's correct! Brook was a washed up former champion, who was fighting at 154 for 2 years b4 fighting Crawford! Porter just lost his WBC title in 2019, in a unification bout w/ Errol Spence, and that loss was by SPLIT DECISION, not by KO like Kell Brook!

    So again, I ask you, show me where Bob Arum made 2 offers to Porter, which he declined!
    there are multiple articles stating “Porter declined 2 mil” so you can search that yourself, and he clearly references that in both quotes I put above regardless of how you want to spin it. What more do you want, an actual copy of the offer sheet? Either way, You said Crawford needed to be forced to fight Porter and to back your point, all you did was mention statements from arum as a promotor talking about money. How does that translate into Crawford not wanting the fight or needing to be forced into taking it ? Of the two, it was Porter who declined offers, not Crawford. So if anything, it looks more like Porter needed to be forced into it.

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    • Boxingfanatic75
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      #142
      Originally posted by RL_GMA
      I'm glad they finally got this done.

      That being said, I don't feel any of Crawford's skeptics will change their tune in a win for Crawford. The excuses are already there:

      Porter lost to Brook already
      Lost to Thurman
      Lost to Spence
      Arguably lost to Ugas
      Has been inactive since August 2020.

      Take your pick. I got Crawford by 8-9th round stoppage.
      How is what you stated excuses when what you just typed is reality? Why not Thurman? Why not Ugas? Why not Spence?

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      • Bronx2245
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        #143
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        there are multiple articles stating “Porter declined 2 mil” so you can search that yourself, and he clearly references that in both quotes I put above regardless of how you want to spin it. What more do you want, an actual copy of the offer sheet? Either way, You said Crawford needed to be forced to fight Porter and to back your point, all you did was mention statements from arum as a promotor talking about money. How does that translate into Crawford not wanting the fight or needing to be forced into taking it ? Of the two, it was Porter who declined offers, not Crawford. So if anything, it looks more like Porter needed to be forced into it.
        Telling me to search myself, is because you know they don't exist! Don't confuse Crawford and Arum! Arum did not want to make this fight, not in January, and not in May! He only decided to make the fight AFTER the WBO ordered the fight. He was already embarrassed by Teofimo, and he did not want to get embarrassed again! Crawford may have wanted to fight many people, but he don't call the shots! Bob Arum does, and always has! If not for Arum, Crawford would have fought Pacquiao a long time ago, and that's according to Arum!

        Bob Arum admits he killed Pacquiao-Crawford fight, didn’t want to see Manny take damage
        January 29, 2019

        On if he would have any reservations of making a fight between Pacquiao and Terence Crawford:

        “Well I killed the fight. Yeah. [I wouldn’t want that for Manny] because I know how it would end...Not that I knew that it would end in serious disability for Manny — that I wouldn’t know — but as a fight it would only end one way.

        “Forget my emotions, I wouldn’t wanna see him take that kind of damage because it might affect his future life — quality of his future life.”



        You believe what you want to believe, history is on my side! Now go away!


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        • Jab jab boom
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          #144
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          Telling me to search myself, is because you know they don't exist! Don't confuse Crawford and Arum! Arum did not want to make this fight, not in January, and not in May! He only decided to make the fight AFTER the WBO ordered the fight. He was already embarrassed by Teofimo, and he did not want to get embarrassed again! Crawford may have wanted to fight many people, but he don't call the shots! Bob Arum does, and always has! If not for Arum, Crawford would have fought Pacquiao a long time ago, and that's according to Arum!

          Bob Arum admits he killed Pacquiao-Crawford fight, didn’t want to see Manny take damage
          January 29, 2019

          On if he would have any reservations of making a fight between Pacquiao and Terence Crawford:

          “Well I killed the fight. Yeah. [I wouldn’t want that for Manny] because I know how it would end...Not that I knew that it would end in serious disability for Manny — that I wouldn’t know — but as a fight it would only end one way.

          “Forget my emotions, I wouldn’t wanna see him take that kind of damage because it might affect his future life — quality of his future life.”



          You believe what you want to believe, history is on my side! Now go away!


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          me telling you to research it yourself is me having already provided enough proof with the quotes and already proving you wrong. I don’t care if you think arum didn’t want the fight because arum has failed Crawford miserably as a promotor. But you also said Crawford had to be forced into it and you have shown nothing to prove that. As I said there’s more proof showing Porter wasn’t too thrilled to take the fight. So hold that L with pride and next time choose your posts more wisely instead of blabbing nonsense to fit a fake narrative that you want to be true.

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          • FLY TY
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            #145
            Originally posted by shaheed1972


            why aren't people acknowledging that when Spence fought Brook, that Brook had to move back down TWO weight classes, he was coming off a loss AND an injury?? Do really think Spence fought the best version of Brook?
            Brook moved up due to his own greed. He could've dropped his belt, but chose to defend it like a man.

            He was also the betting favorite, which no one wants acknowledge.

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              #146
              hopefully the fight happens.

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              • theface07
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                #147
                Originally posted by Fanofreason
                Lol. Crawford will get Covid and duck
                Why would he duck? Porter is a good opponent but certainly someone that Bud should be able to beat with his skills and ring IQ. Some of you people have nothing better to do than hope that a good fight doesn't happen. SMH.

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                • theface07
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by markusmod

                  Spence would still have an edge. Brook was not the same Brook when he fought Crawford
                  Brook was damaged goods when Spence fought him so that win doesn't mean much for either fighter. I personally think pre-GGG Brook would outpoint Spence but lose a decision to Bud.

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                  • theface07
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by FLY TY

                    Oscar made weight for manny in a weight class he hadn't fought at in years...how'd that go?
                    Yeah and most people thought the much bigger De La Hoya would smoke the tiny Pacman. It's great having the benefit of hindsight isn't it?

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                    • RL_GMA
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75

                      How is what you stated excuses when what you just typed is reality? Why not Thurman? Why not Ugas? Why not Spence?
                      I'm just stating there's a good probability the people who are skeptics of Crawford now will still be following a win over Porter with examples of the excuses that will be given. You either give him credit or **** on the fight now BEFORE the bell rings is all I say.
                      Last edited by RL_GMA; 09-16-2021, 01:35 PM.

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