Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez Sees 'No Point' in Having Rematch With Lomachenko

[club fighter]

Biggest duck in fight history.

[1hourRun]

That has to be the most harebrained idea I have heard in ages. First, there's no guarantee that the belts would be on the line. Having all sanctioning bodies on board here seems near impossible. Second, it's a ***** move to squeeze all the water out of Taylor so he can fight at a catchweight. Last, given that the odds of the belts being on the line to actually be able to call oneself undisputed are astronomical, there are not going to be any belts on the line at catchweight. With that being the case, it's an absolute duck. It defeats the whole purpose of moving to 140 pounds. Two years ago we heard that Teofimo can't put his damn pants on because he's too big for the division. That was two years ago, and now we hear that he can make 135 comfortably. WTF? This kid has a special talent for talking out of both ends at the same time.

Get in the ring and fight Lomachenko. You're a ****ing prize fighter. Fight for the ****ing biggest prize, dumb ass.

Of course the sanctioning bodies would approve of this epic clash between Teofimo Lopez vs. Josh Taylor, who else at lightweight is more deserving than the lineal AND WBC FRANCHISE champion, P4P boxer, rising-star, Teofimo Lopez? WBC President Mauricio Sauliman, is fond of Teo, considering Sauliman transferred the 'non-transferable' WBC 'Franchise' title to Lopez, when Teo schooled Loma. Then you factor in the WBO championship policy for WBO champions moving up to a new division ; that guarantees Lopez has a clear path with the WBO.

Next you have the WBA, Gervonta Davis has recently captured and vacated the WBA 'Regular' title, so that means that Josh Taylor does not have a mandatory from said organization.

The only obstacle would be Subriel Matias, who has won a IBF final eliminator vs. Batyrzhan Jukembayev a few months ago. But I'm sure Subriel Matias would step aside for the right price. And even if Subriel is not willing to cooperate, Josh Taylor is going to duck the Puerto Rican at all cost -- no way does Taylor defend the IBF vs. Subriel Matias, and we also know that Taylor fears Terence Crawford.

So Teofimo Lopez 137½ catchweight proposal is looking like Josh Taylor's best option, I just hope that the 'Tart-Tomato' Josh Taylor does not get upset by Jack Catterall.

[theface07]

Exactly. You already beat him once, people are crying for a rematch because everybody was swearing and betting that Lomachenko was gonna stop you but once you came to dominate him the best they can do is cry rematch. Devin Haney should atop fighting old washed up ex champions and fight Lomachenko instead to prove himself

I think you talk more trash than the average user here. Lopez did NOT dominate Loma. He dominated the first 6 rounds and Loma one 5 of the last 6 rounds. How that is considered domination is beyond me. He clearly won but there was no domination. Loma just started way too late.
Sure people want to see the rematch. Loma looked good in stopping Nakatani who Lopez went the distance with.

[theface07]

Of course the sanctioning bodies would approve of this epic clash between Teofimo Lopez vs. Josh Taylor, who else at lightweight is more deserving than the lineal AND WBC FRANCHISE champion, P4P boxer, rising-star, Teofimo Lopez? WBC President Mauricio Sauliman, is fond of Teo, considering Sauliman transferred the 'non-transferable' WBC 'Franchise' title to Lopez, when Teo schooled Loma. Then you factor in the WBO championship policy for WBO champions moving up to a new division ; that guarantees Lopez has a clear path with the WBO.

Next you have the WBA, Gervonta Davis has recently captured and vacated the WBA 'Regular' title, so that means that Josh Taylor does not have a mandatory from said organization.

The only obstacle would be Subriel Matias, who has won a IBF final eliminator vs. Batyrzhan Jukembayev a few months ago. But I'm sure Subriel Matias would step aside for the right price. And even if Subriel is not willing to cooperate, Josh Taylor is going to duck the Puerto Rican at all cost -- no way does Taylor defend the IBF vs. Subriel Matias, and we also know that Taylor fears Terence Crawford.

So Teofimo Lopez 137½ catchweight proposal is looking like Josh Taylor's best option, I just hope that the 'Tart-Tomato' Josh Taylor does not get upset by Jack Catterall.

The "Tart-Tomato" as you call him is undisputed, unified 140 lb champion of the world in less than 20 fights. He clearly beat your boyfriend Ramirez who you said would smoke him. Your credibility is gone out the window long ago.

[Cypocryphy]

There are some things wrong with your post here. I'll correct them for you:

Of course the sanctioning bodies would approve of this epic clash between Teofimo Lopez vs. Josh Taylor, who else at lightweight is more deserving than the lineal AND WBC FRANCHISE champion, P4P boxer, rising-star, Teofimo Lopez? WBC President Mauricio Sauliman, is fond of Teo, considering Sauliman transferred the 'non-transferable' WBC 'Franchise' title to Lopez, when Teo schooled Loma. Then you factor in the WBO championship policy for WBO champions moving up to a new division ; that guarantees Lopez has a clear path with the WBO.

First, Teofimo did not school Loma. He was gifted with a unanimous win by the judges, as far as I'm concerned. Not saying that he didn't win, but I had it a draw and could see a scenario where Loma won.

Next you have the WBA, Gervonta Davis has recently captured and vacated the WBA 'Regular' title, so that means that Josh Taylor does not have a mandatory from said organization.

Second, this is the other point. Taylor does not stand to win the lightweight titles because he would be fighting above the lightweight limit. Teofimo could potentially capture Josh's titles, however. And that's why it's a ***** ass move.

So Teofimo Lopez 137½ catchweight proposal is looking like Josh Taylor's best option, I just hope that the 'Tart-Tomato' Josh Taylor does not get upset by Jack Catterall.

It's a good option, if it were available. As it stands, it's extremely premature, especially when Taylor has his sights on a bigger challenge for his legacy, which is Crawford. And because no one is lining up to fight Crawford, and those that are will be outside of the TopRank umbrella, Taylor is Crawford's only real option. That's it. Teofimo has other options, and his best option is Lomachenko.

[The Big Dunn]

I think you talk more trash than the average user here. Lopez did NOT dominate Loma. He dominated the first 6 rounds and Loma one 5 of the last 6 rounds. How that is considered domination is beyond me. He clearly won but there was no domination. Loma just started way too late.
Sure people want to see the rematch. Loma looked good in stopping Nakatani who Lopez went the distance with.

Respectfully, Loma didn’t start fighting until round 8 so Teo won the first 7 rounds. and round 12. Loma won 8-11.

The reason there should be no rematch because Loma didn’t have a rematch clause in the contract.

Whether posters want to admit it or not If this situation was reversed there is no way in hell Loma would give Teo a rematch without that clause in the contract.

I’m not sure why Teo needs to treat Loma any differently than loma would’ve treated him.

[BodyBagz]

Yeah. But this one does. The fight was intriguing because Loma started to dominate the kid. And anyone who says Loma was hurt in the 12th round doesn't have a clue. When I think of being hurt, I think of Haney with Linares. Loma took those punches well, most of which were blocked. So I don't know how hurt he was. If you go off of Bradley shouting at the top of his lungs on things that weren't even happening, such as punches that never connected and whatnot, yeah, you might have a skewed view of the 12th round. The truth is that Loma out-landed Lopez in the 12th round. Check out the replay punch count done by the Editor-In-Chief of Ring Magazine. It's eye opening for those who have a different opinion.

Hurt or not, it was a clear W for Teo. It's Loma's own fault for having the most egregious game plan. Giving away the 1st half of a title fight, c'mon.

[Cypocryphy]

Respectfully, Loma didn’t start fighting until round 8 so Teo won the first 7 rounds. and round 12. Loma won 8-11.

The reason there should be no rematch because Loma didn’t have a rematch clause in the contract.

Whether posters want to admit it or not If this situation was reversed there is no way in hell Loma would give Teo a rematch without the clause in the contract.

That's the other point that needs to be addressed. Where did this narrative come from that Loma wouldn't give Teofimo a rematch? I never once heard Lomachenko say any such thing. It's interesting to see so many people put words in Lomachenko's mouth.

How can you or anyone know what Loma would do had he won? I bet everyone here doesn't even know what they'll have for breakfast tomorrow. Had the fight been reversed, and everyone had been saying that it was a draw, you can be damn sure that Lomachenko would give Teofimo a rematch. Even if that weren't the case, he would have fought Teofimo again just to get a chance to punch him more for talking so much ****.

This narrative that he wouldn't give Teofimo a rematch just need to stop.

[The Big Dunn]

Hurt or not, it was a clear W for Teo. It's Loma's own fault for having the most egregious game plan. Giving away the 1st half of a title fight, c'mon.

Exactly.

[Cypocryphy]

Hurt or not, it was a clear W for Teo. It's Loma's own fault for having the most egregious game plan. Giving away the 1st half of a title fight, c'mon.

I know boxing, how to box, looking at fight plans and understanding them. The first six rounds were Lomachenko trying to put himself in a position to maximamie the opportunity for his left arm. That's what he was doing. But Teofimo was making it extremely difficult, and it had nothing to do with is punching power. It was Teofimo controlling the space and moving to the left. When Loma realized that he'd have to risk serious injury, then he started using his right. And that's when everything changed. I know what these guys were doing, and Loma had been constantly trying to put himself in a position to open up opportunities for his left. Because Teofimo is such a good boxer, it was impossible, and he just had to risk it in the end. But even then, Loma was holding back a bit.