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In The End, CANELO Proved To Be Most Tested Athlete, Nobody is Perfect, stop acting like you never made mistakes!

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  • #41
    Originally posted by #1PaperChamp View Post

    The WADA director of the lab that tested Canelos samples said his levels were "consistent with meat contamination". That's not speculation like what you or Breadman do. Thats the reality of the situation.

    Could it be that Canelo cheated ? Yes.

    Is it likely Canelo cheated ? No.

    Canelo never tested positive before or after, showed no improvement or decrease in performance. When Canelo tested positive it was the FIRST time he had been tested in Mexixo. The testing also began 12 weeks out which is earlier rhan any camp starts not to mention muscular gains dont last 12 weeks. . .

    It would be pretty dumb planning to use PEDs 12 weeks from competition. You need them VERY NEAR competition to experience the benefit.

    But dont let logical and organized information dissuade your witch hunt. You and PoppaPump love accusing Canelo of cheating no matter how baseless the accusation.
    If were really being logical, explain how canelo got the volume of Tainted meat necessary to test positive when you know (but will not admit) he isn’t eating the same low quality beef that poor people in his country ingest?

    He has a chef. He is a multi millionaire athlete that carefully monitors what goes in his body.

    Again, if we’re being logical.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      If were really being logical, explain how canelo got the volume of Tainted meat necessary to test positive when you know (but will not admit) he isn’t eating the same low quality beef that poor people in his country ingest?

      He has a chef. He is a multi millionaire athlete that carefully monitors what goes in his body.

      Again, if we’re being logical.
      How far is Mexico from San Diego? What you’re saying makes no sense at all. Why would Mexican boxers worry about beef if WADA has practically exonerated all of Mexican boxing. You can’t discriminate against a boxer who is rich or poor. And Mexican news had already done reports of regular people eating contaminated meat as a normal way of life. It’s as basic as chickens worldwide given hormones. That’s part of the industry

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post
        You can’t prove Canelo “cheated.”

        Canelo could continue doing VADA forever, and everyone can continue being skeptic. At the end of the day, the FREQUENCY of enrollment is all that matters while many can ponder what fighter X is doing when only fighting 1-2 times a year.

        Every fighter has a “story.” Breadman Edwards can say on Boxing Voice “I seen guys take stuff all the time” but unless he’s not snitching on those guys then he has no right to crocodile tears about “oh god forbid that other fighter gets hurt.” Spare us the fake outrage seriously.

        it is getting beyond gay. If you have real problems about “Clenbuterol” then challenge WADA and the Court Of Arbitration as to why Clen was amended twice and now 8x times allowance of what Canelo had.

        That is all. Keep hating. Canelo is bound to ATG status.
        lance armstrong was tested 5000 times more then canelo and got away with it for 20 years

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        • #44
          Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post

          lance armstrong was tested 5000 times more then canelo and got away with it for 20 years
          Blood doping and EPO was barely being researched and investigated in his time. His mates ratted on him and he eventually confessed. Learn the history of PEDS! Automobiles are more efficient nowadays than 20 years ago as the research for PEDS has improved as well. I mean… duh..

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          • #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            Since when is talking about a boxer that actually tested positive for a banned substance equate to “hating”?

            Canelo and Valdez got caught trying to cheat. No one made this up. VADA, the testing agency many posters swear by, caught them.

            The number of times one of them is tested isn’t a valid defense. Tainted meat and herbal tea are not believable. Brining up rumors or positives by black fighters doesn’t make them less guilty. That the rules are changed down the road doesn’t absolve them of their guilt.

            Valdez getting caught and all the defense threads and posts from his and Canelo’s fans is made worse given we are 2 weeks removed from a boxer dying in the ring.

            Maybe it’s time to consider the potential damage these guys that are caught and allowed to fight could do.
            Tainted meat has literally been proven. Countless athletes from every sport who have zero to gain from anything resembling clen,have tested positive in Mexico including entire u17 wc. If "tainted meat was not believable" then why did Wada who literally has nothing to do with Canelo have amended their thresholds? Why would have nsac ordered a hair follicle test then cleared Canelo along with every abc including the Ibf?

            As for Valdez I have no doubt he took phentermine to lose weight (unlike clen its not found in majority of meat in Mexico,& is actually used by fighters unlike clen which is a laughable joke)

            It sounds to me like fans want to pretend its impossible for a fighter to eat something that has a miniscule trace amount of the weakest joke substance known as clen, because you want something to hold against Canelo to downplay his atg resume & him being likely to surpass Floyd.(notice how when Floyd weightdrained Canelo to a zombie state he still didn't pop dirty,but you wanna believe he somehow tried to use the weakest ped in existence several months out from a fight at a new higher weight he made comfortably,he wasn't even informed of the test results til weeks after,& still the less than 1 meal amount decreased exactly as expected over 3 days,& a hair test would've been guaranteed to show anything he took in ped dosages over several months)


            I only write all this long post because I have defended clen fighters way before Canelo(& completely disowned him as a fan when I first heard he popped dirty,then I found out that the evidence is obvious,& that if you want to call him a cheat why don't you keep same energy for ggg/Charlo & countless others who literally have avoided testing?

            Or for Floyd himself who is the only fighter to ever get a retroactive T.U.E.

            There was a footballer who got a yrs ban for going to a dr & getting IV drip while on vacation.
            Last edited by kushking; 09-10-2021, 07:19 PM.
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            • #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              If were really being logical, explain how canelo got the volume of Tainted meat necessary to test positive when you know (but will not admit) he isn’t eating the same low quality beef that poor people in his country ingest?
              But why not ?

              Your boy Floyd was on 24/7 ALL THE TIME going to McDonalds and Burger King...

              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              He has a chef. He is a multi millionaire athlete that carefully monitors what goes in his body.

              Again, if we’re being logical.
              Yes, DURING training camp. I'm not going to pretend I'm a lab technician or familiar with individual values and such. The WADA manager at the site Canelo tested positive at said his levels were "consistent with meat contamination". Couple that with his "story" along with never testing positive before/after and no drop-off in performance...starts to add up.
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              • #47
                Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                Loaded Wraps are real time weapons in the ring. Canelo’s never failed a test when providing samples after his fights. It’s not like RJJ failing for Anabolic steroids from a post fight sample collection
                that's the point.

                they let an egregious cheater back into the spot.

                so why moan over Canelo? He served his suspension. Now he's back. But he's still a cheater. Because he cheated. It is, what it is, and it is his own fault for it.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

                  Blood doping and EPO was barely being researched and investigated in his time. His mates ratted on him and he eventually confessed. Learn the history of PEDS! Automobiles are more efficient nowadays than 20 years ago as the research for PEDS has improved as well. I mean… duh..
                  anybody with a lot of money behind them can evade tests for decades like holyfield canelo. you are to ****** to know the PEDs are 5-7 years ahead of the tests which is done on purpose CAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO CATCH NOBODY

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by nacho daddy View Post

                    anybody with a lot of money behind them can evade tests for decades like holyfield canelo. you are to ****** to know the PEDs are 5-7 years ahead of the tests which is done on purpose CAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO CATCH NOBODY
                    Cheap. Peasant rural life crying about the rich

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