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In The End, CANELO Proved To Be Most Tested Athlete, Nobody is Perfect, stop acting like you never made mistakes!

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  • #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    Racism, race baiting and bigotry when faced with facts. Typical.
    Exactly what is racist to you? You always cite this. I think you’re confused. Why don’t you go lean on a wall and think about it
    Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 09-09-2021, 12:15 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Why do you say it’s about his status when it’s about the positive test?

      If anything his status benefited him because Suiliman cut him a nice deal.

      Canelo got caught using a banned substance. I get you’re a big fan but calling it a Mistake?

      He didn’t step in dog crap, add numbers wrong or spill his coffee. Those are mistakes.
      That substance has little to no benefits in the small amount that showed up and that far out from a fight. The main benefit was cutting weight which at that point Canelo didn’t have any problems making 160 and no fighter is cutting weight two months out from a fight. There was no obvious advantage. That’s why the amounts the he was traced with wouldn’t even come up as a negative test today.
      At the end of the day he’s responsible for what he eats but I haven’t seen anything compelling that says this one anything other than that a mistake.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
        That substance has little to no benefits in the small amount that showed up and that far out from a fight. The main benefit was cutting weight which at that point Canelo didn’t have any problems making 160 and no fighter is cutting weight two months out from a fight. There was no obvious advantage. That’s why the amounts the he was traced with wouldn’t even come up as a negative test today.
        At the end of the day he’s responsible for what he eats but I haven’t seen anything compelling that says this one anything other than that a mistake.
        If there was no obvious advantage, he wouldn’t have chosen to use.

        Tainted meat. Herbal tea. These are mistakes if you believe them. The primary reason you believe them is you’re a fan. That is why you label them as “mistakes”.

        I think you know canelo isn’t eating the kind of low grade beef that poor Mexicans have to, especially in training camp with a chef preparing his meals.

        I think you also know Valdez didn’t test positive because of herbal tea.

        Either way it’s not poster hate that’s driving this, it’s their use of banned substances that led to the positive tests.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-09-2021, 01:10 PM.

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        • #14
          "Nobody is perfect".
          Sorry but, as far as we know, fighters who have never tested positive for PEDS have a "perfect" drug testing record.
          Just as Canelo had a "perfect" testing record before he tested positive for a banned substance.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            If there was no obvious advantage, he wouldn’t have chosen to use.

            Tainted meat. Herbal tea. These are mistakes if you believe them. The primary reason you believe them is you’re a fan. That is why you label them as “mistakes”.

            I think you know canelo isn’t eating the kind of low grade beef that poor Mexicans have to, especially in training camp with a chef preparing his meals.

            I think you also know Valdez didn’t test positive because of herbal tea.

            Either way it’s not poster hate that’s driving this, it’s their use of banned substances that led to the positive tests.
            If he was dirty and it was helping him then it stands to reason he would perform worse in his next fight. He looked even better in the rematch and every fight since.
            When Margarito got popped with plaster wraps in his gloves before the Mosley fight he went out and got KTFO by old man Mosley and never won a meaningful fight again. It was clear he lost his advantage.
            That substance only aides in weight loss and would have to be taken in very large amounts to do anything. Canelo wasn’t having issues making weight nor was he at the point of needing to cut. The hair follicle tests confirmed that it wasn’t a recent ingestion and would have had 0 benefits if taken even before a training camp had even started.
            And yes he should have been more careful with what he ate but it’s a common problem with meat in Mexico and those street tacos are hard to pass.
            Keep hoping one day Canelo will take an actual L. Maybe as Father Time catches up to him your dreams will come true.

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            • #16
              Gayweather, Holyfield, Roy Jones Jr., James Toney, Mosley - PED cheats

              Tyson, Whitaker - coke abusers

              What do they all have in common? Black and the same fanbase that keep bashing Mexican fighters keep quiet about the others.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by QballLobo View Post

                If he was dirty and it was helping him then it stands to reason he would perform worse in his next fight. He looked even better in the rematch and every fight since.
                When Margarito got popped with plaster wraps in his gloves before the Mosley fight he went out and got KTFO by old man Mosley and never won a meaningful fight again. It was clear he lost his advantage.
                That substance only aides in weight loss and would have to be taken in very large amounts to do anything. Canelo wasn’t having issues making weight nor was he at the point of needing to cut. The hair follicle tests confirmed that it wasn’t a recent ingestion and would have had 0 benefits if taken even before a training camp had even started.
                And yes he should have been more careful with what he ate but it’s a common problem with meat in Mexico and those street tacos are hard to pass.
                Keep hoping one day Canelo will take an actual L. Maybe as Father Time catches up to him your dreams will come true.
                It doesn’t stand to reason that at all. It’s just as plausible that he used and timed the use better since he got caught.

                He isn’t eating street tacos during training camp when he’s trying to lose weight.

                Why would I hope canelo takes an L? You’re still trying to make this about anything but the positive test.

                Win or lose the positive test is still on the books.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post
                  Gayweather, Holyfield, Roy Jones Jr., James Toney, Mosley - PED cheats

                  Tyson, Whitaker - coke abusers

                  What do they all have in common? Black and the same fanbase that keep bashing Mexican fighters keep quiet about the others.
                  Ahh the anti black boxer race baiting to shift the debate into a racial flame throwing thing.

                  All because posters are correctly and fairly posting that canelo and Valdez tested positive for banned substances.

                  Typical.

                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-09-2021, 01:41 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Ahh the race baiting to shift the debate into a racial flame throwing thing. Typical.
                    Posting facts is not race baiting.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

                      Posting facts is not race baiting.
                      Your post isn’t factual. Floyd didn’t test positive.

                      Lying and anti black race baiting because canelo and Valdez decided to use banned substances and got caught.


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