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  • #31
    I reckon whoever is not ready should be dropped and if both are not ready or are unwilling to fight someone else then drop them both. Whyte vs Ruiz for the WBC sounds good. Joe Joyce is a good name for the mix too. Between Wilder, Fury, Whyte, Ruiz, and Joyce I am very sure the WBC can put on a HW title fight.

    I don't even get why they be so protective of Wilder or Fury. They are big names but in reality wouldn't you want to pop that belt on Whyte or Ruiz and get him in with Josh asap? Joshua is the draw of the division and Joshua in an undisputed is still big money. I'd be looking for a way to get that belt on a guy more willing to fight AJ than Fury or Wilder have been.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BoloShot View Post

      He was third, don't act like a long inactive and post Fury loss Wlad was one of the top 2 in the division at the time.
      Behind who? AJ was 5th, Fury was retired, Wilder wasn't better or higher in the rankings or even 'ready'.

      Let's not pretend Wlad was completely inactive, wasn't in b2b camps and wouldn't have folded Wilder like a deck chair.

      Even 39 year old Ortiz had success and hurt Wilder. He also couldn't even cherry pick Fury straight out of fat camp and rehab.

      I can't see an argument for anyone being higher but Wilder and it's not a very good one.

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      • #33
        I just so happen to agree with Eddie this time. He is right. Fury has never defended any of the titles he's won in his career or have done any mandatory rematches.

        If he stalls again then the WBC sanctioning body needs to step in to sort this whole mess out. Its been nearly two years since Fury has won that title and has yet to ever defend it.

        He is holding the heavyweight division up. He needs to either shit or get off the pot.

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        • #34
          Nobody is bigger than the sport and Championships should be earned in the boxing ring...no exception.

          If a mandatory fight does not come to fruition because of promotional differences, money or lack of will by the acknowledged champion... the status and belt should be stripped, period, full stop, no exception.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
            If it is delayed again then I agree. However, I don't agree with another email champ in Whyte. Make the Whyte vs Wilder fight to sort it out
            I keep seeing the hunchback of Notre Dame in my mind, when they made him king of fools. Give Whyte a crown and Eddy will rake in the benefits.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              Everyone got feeling Tyson going to pull out?.Why? I'm sure Tyson wants to get fight out of way. I'm sure Tyson didn't want 3rd fight after excuses, but now it's on its chance to shut wilder up
              Fury still seems to be psychically unprepared and as disinterested as a man too used to sleeping in silk sheets.

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              • #37
                Fury would rather talk than fight.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                  I don't know where you got the idea from that it was Fury's fault the fight didn't happen last year. He was in camp training for it with Sugar Hill and the media was full of reports of Fury repeatedly calling Wilder out and urging him to come out of hiding so they could get it on.

                  Wilder disappeared after losing his title and wasn't seen or heard from again till the middle of November. In his first interview since re-appearing he claimed he'd had surgery on an arm injury and hadn't been able to train until October. And in that same interview he said he was planning to fight someone else before Fury, possibly Helenius.
                  ^^^^
                  This is false right here. As a matter of fact it's an outright lie. Wilder exercised his rematch clause approximately two weeks after their second fight. However, the fight was delayed due to the pandemic.

                  Bob Arum kept stressing the need for a live gate. He didn't want to promote this fight inside of a bubble where he would lose a substantial amount of money. It was October 2020 when Fury decided to breach the rematch clause and decided that he would pursue an undisputed bout with Anthony Joshua.

                  He had been given false and misleading legal advice that the rematch clause had expired which was untrue. The rematch clause was still a binding and enforceable agreement.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rodtang View Post

                    AJ was no 1 for long enough and the no 2 at the time wanted no part of it. Instead waiting for a guy almost 3 years out of action.
                    Since when has 18 months been 3 years? You should probably get a refund from the school you went to.

                    No one was fighting better opponents than a Wlad from B2B camps, who had only not got a proper fight due Fury ducking/retiring.

                    Whilst AJ was taking on Wlad in is 18th fight Wilder was busy fighting bums like Stiverne 2 and Washington that same year in his 37th & 38th .

                    Name any other fighter at the time you got beating Wlad.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jax teller View Post

                      Behind who? AJ was 5th, Fury was retired, Wilder wasn't better or higher in the rankings or even 'ready'.

                      Let's not pretend Wlad was completely inactive, wasn't in b2b camps and wouldn't have folded Wilder like a deck chair.

                      Even 39 year old Ortiz had success and hurt Wilder. He also couldn't even cherry pick Fury straight out of fat camp and rehab.

                      I can't see an argument for anyone being higher but Wilder and it's not a very good one.
                      From what I recall somehow Fury and Wilder were ranked ahead of him, it may have been Povetkin or Parker in Wilder's place too but I doubt it. I didn't agree with it personally, but he was ranked there.
                      Last edited by BoloShot; 09-08-2021, 09:44 AM.

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