Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua is Getting Better and Better All The Time - He Will Beat Tyson Fury

[Quercusalba]

So, when exactly is he going to beat Fury, after he loses to Usyk twice???

[Sctrojan]

You do know DAZN defaulted on all their big contracts and then redid them with lower payouts because of low sales and would’ve done same with that offer?

Did he really end up getting less, since we’re not letting facts get in the way of things?

Aw yes because everyone knew at the time that's exactly what was going to happen right? So your saying he turned down the offer,substantial larger,than anything wilder had or has ever recieved,because they knew Dazn was going to have low sales lol??

If that were to have happen with THAT contract,which we"ll never know because he never signed the damn thing,you sue as Canelo did and recoup the damages without ever having to step in the ring.

Is not a FACT he turned down the offer and isn't not a FACT he got his ass taken to the woodshed for far less than what that contract would have paid....or am I mistaken??

[billeau2]

Martin and Pulev are better then Washington and Breazeale , who are included in Wilders top 5 wins . Always butting in making yourself look foolish .

Based on what? What is your criteria? What are you basing the opinion on? Are you talking career? as a threat now? Pulev is what 40? and Breazeale, aside from losing to Wilder, as Pulev lost to Aj, has not done anything that makes him worse than Pulev. Your talking nonsense and not giving any real information... If I say Ortiz is better than Pulev I should distinguish how I am making the distinction. Is it based on past performance? or presently as a threat, etc.

I mean its ok for you to sound like an idiot, because you are... But normal people would share that info caption half wit. LOL.

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Based on what? What is your criteria? What are you basing the opinion on? Are you talking career? as a threat now? Pulev is what 40? and Breazeale, aside from losing to Wilder, as Pulev lost to Aj, has not done anything that makes him worse than Pulev. Your talking nonsense and not giving any real information... If I say Ortiz is better than Pulev I should distinguish how I am making the distinction. Is it based on past performance? or presently as a threat, etc.

I mean its ok for you to sound like an idiot, because you are... But normal people would share that info caption half wit. LOL.

Based on Martin knocked Washington out maybe ?

Pulev is a much better boxer then Breazeale are you really arguing that to ,what criteria do I need to prove that ?

Pulev and Ortiz are probably the same it would be a great fight that’s the only sane thing you mentioned today in terms of making a distinction, however stating Breazeale and Washington are better then or no worse then Pulev and Martin has no logic to it but it’s you so ? This is a common argument from you ,another backwards one .

[billeau2]

Pulev literally turned his back ready to jump out of the ring and huddled in a corner wearing ear muffs in round 3 before the ref gave him an illegal standing 8 count . If you knew the rules you would know that’s a DQ when you cover up and turn your back covering up . You make absolutely no sense Silly Billy ,uninformed you say ?


You also sound like a casual if you think no argument can be made putting AJ or Fury over the other or AJ over Wilder . I know casuals probably don’t know turning your back is grounds to stop a fight ,you know who that is ?

I know... I know... and AJ had jet lag, hence his loss to Ruiz....Yeah and Pulev wanting to be DQ'ed then manages to last a good while longer! I guess you know better than the ref, which is truly amazing!!! considering you are wrong about virtually everything you post here. Yet you know more than the ref right? like you know more about contracts than a promoter, yet cannot understand a standard term used regarding contracts... Ill take the ref over you toots, don't take it personally though.

Its not that I cannot see any argument being made. The distinction IMO is trivial at best. In this division there is no great distinction to be made based on the three top guys and who they have fought.

Let me put it to you this way: Has Canelo fought better comp than Plant? Yeah! there is an obvious difference that make people believe, for good reason, that Canelo has a real advantage that way. And here you are telling people that Whyte, for example, who was bamboozled by the Russian, and lost to Joshua, has an advantage based on competition fought compared to Wilder. I don't agree. The difference between Stiverne, and Povatkin imo is not that great to make a major difference. The difference between Ortiz and Martin... who cares? not relevant. both guys lost to Wilder, neither guy is much better/worse than the other.

Read the post slowly and you might get it...

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I know... I know... and AJ had jet lag, hence his loss to Ruiz....Yeah and Pulev wanting to be DQ'ed then manages to last a good while longer! I guess you know better than the ref, which is truly amazing!!! considering you are wrong about virtually everything you post here. Yet you know more than the ref right? like you know more about contracts than a promoter, yet cannot understand a standard term used regarding contracts... Ill take the ref over you toots, don't take it personally though.

Its not that I cannot see any argument being made. The distinction IMO is trivial at best. In this division there is no great distinction to be made based on the three top guys and who they have fought.

Let me put it to you this way: Has Canelo fought better comp than Plant? Yeah! there is an obvious difference that make people believe, for good reason, that Canelo has a real advantage that way. And here you are telling people that Whyte, for example, who was bamboozled by the Russian, and lost to Joshua, has an advantage based on competition fought compared to Wilder. I don't agree. The difference between Stiverne, and Povatkin imo is not that great to make a major difference. The difference between Ortiz and Martin... who cares? not relevant. both guys lost to Wilder, neither guy is much better/worse than the other.

Read the post slowly and you might get it...

I don’t need to know better then the referee,boxing rules state turning your back is an automatic disqualification try watching the fight you will hear every announcer stAting the fight should have been stopped and added he was getting pummeled , anyone on the forum would tell you that most likely, you’d be the only poster to argue it .

The distinction is AJ should win he has the best all around skills with two handed power , the other 2 dont ,it’s why I know Usyk who you pick to win will lose that fight easily and I’ll get the AJ vs Fury fight correct as well ,you can pick Usyk but that’s because you don’t understand Heavyweight boxing .

[billeau2]

Based on Martin knocked Washington out maybe ?

Pulev is a much better boxer then Breazeale are you really arguing that to ,what criteria do I need to prove that ?

Pulev and Ortiz are probably the same it would be a great fight that’s the only sane thing you mentioned today in terms of making a distinction, however stating Breazeale and Washington are better then or no worse then Pulev and Martin has no logic to it but it’s you so ? This is a common argument from you ,another backwards one .

Breazeale and Pulev are similar enough that neither guy, with their particular advantages, makes one guy a lot stronger fighter. Yes, Pulev as a career fighter had a better career, if we include Ammy... But so what? Breazeale is a stronger, younger fighter, and Pulev is an older fighter in his twilight years, such that neither guy stands out... Both guys have lost to one of the top dogs and neither guy has been otherwise remarkable.

I deliberately didn't mention Washington Martin. Yes, that would be a reason why Martin is better. But again, what big difference in skills exists? Washington is another veteran fighter, Martin is a younger stronger fighter... Both of these guys were handled relatively easy by a top dog (Washington did a nice job against Wilder for a while). Neither guy is that remarkable otherwise, and in a strong division both guys would be at absolute best, a gate keeper.

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Breazeale and Pulev are similar enough that neither guy, with their particular advantages, makes one guy a lot stronger fighter. Yes, Pulev as a career fighter had a better career, if we include Ammy... But so what? Breazeale is a stronger, younger fighter, and Pulev is an older fighter in his twilight years, such that neither guy stands out... Both guys have lost to one of the top dogs and neither guy has been otherwise remarkable.

I deliberately didn't mention Washington Martin. Yes, that would be a reason why Martin is better. But again, what big difference in skills exists? Washington is another veteran fighter, Martin is a younger stronger fighter... Both of these guys were handled relatively easy by a top dog (Washington did a nice job against Wilder for a while). Neither guy is that remarkable otherwise, and in a strong division both guys would be at absolute best, a gate keeper.

Pulevs jab is still one of the best and he hardly gets hit clean ,it’s why Joshuas performance was that good . Breazeale is the slowest active heavyweight and blocks with his face ,good luck telling anyone there’s no distinction between them and how Pulev is the same ? Once again showing you are clueless.

You walked into a conversation where I said Pulev and Martin would be top wins for Wilder . You didn’t need to bring up Martin because you said why ,now your telling me you deliberately didn’t mention the fact Martin knocked out Washington which proves what I was arguing,you should know what you are talking about and read carefully before trying to prove someone wrong .

[billeau2]

I don’t need to know better then the referee,boxing rules state turning your back is an automatic disqualification try watching the fight you will hear every announcer stAting the fight should have been stopped and added he was getting pummeled , anyone on the forum would tell you that most likely, you’d be the only poster to argue it .

The distinction is AJ should win he has the best all around skills with two handed power , the other 2 dont ,it’s why I know Usyk who you pick to win will lose that fight easily and I’ll get the AJ vs Fury fight correct as well ,you can pick Usyk but that’s because you don’t understand Heavyweight boxing .

I don't know what the ref thought but I take his word over yours... Thats your problem you legitimately think you know a lot more than you know... No most people on the forum would not give two shiats, only you...

AJ is more skilled than Fury? really?
I guess we will see if Usyk wins, or loses. You telling anyone about heavyweight boxing is a joke, you are an idiot and it has been proven time and time again!
Lets see how AJ does against Usyk... Yeah I think Usyk will win. The difference is I am not bragging, being spiteful, because the fight is yet to happen. You do realize that if AJ is beaten, you will have extended your streak?

[billeau2]

Pulevs jab is still one of the best and he hardly gets hit clean ,it’s why Joshuas performance was that good . Breazeale is the slowest active heavyweight and blocks with his face ,good luck telling anyone there’s no distinction between them and how Pulev is the same ? Once again showing you are clueless.

You walked into a conversation where I said Pulev and Martin would be top wins for Wilder . You didn’t need to bring Martin because you said why ,now your telling me you deliberately didn’t mention the fact Martin knocked out Washington which proves what I was arguing .

PUlev has cement feet, typical Ammy fighter. breazeale is strong and has good power, in any decent division both these guys would be on the bottom. Wilder does not need top wins, you dunce... You don't know how to argue, you are a half wit. You try to catch people and look like a village idiot because of it...