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  • Griever0730
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rodtang

    AJ has been down five time in 2 fights. Fury has been down 4 times, only 1 less, in 3 fights. AJ was concussed in his fight with Ruiz so that is the reason why he was getting dropped so much. He had a temporary brain injury. Fury wasn't concussed in his fights. So fury has actually been dropped in more fights with no temporary brain injury to speak of. Pretty sure he's just as chinny or more so than AJ. FURY and his fans are always so quick to call AJ chinny but conveniently forget how chinny Fury is lol. Throwing about misgivings that your guilty of yourself is such poor form.
    Fan of boxing here, not Fury. But I agree to an extent. Fury was dropped by a much smaller Cunningham and was hurt pretty bad earlier in his career by some lesser dude so I understand what you saying. Everybody gets hurt when Wilder hits them with the right so I don't count him. But Fury's defensive skills for his size are top-notch and with how slow Joyce is, it would be hard to see Joyce land a big shot on him. Joshua on the other hand doesn't have the same length, size or mobility that Fury has so I see Joyce with a much better chance at getting a W with Joshua than Fury. Regardless, I feel both guys beat Joyce anyway. Hope I cleared that up.

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    • Rodtang
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boro

      What exactly is that suppose to mean none of them (Fury,Wilder and AJ) have won a dodgy decision in a rematch, Fury stopped McDermott, Wilder and soundly outboxed Chisora. AJ handily dealt with Ruiz and Wilder Stopped Stiverne and lost to Fury.
      No, what I meant was the McDermott rematch was done because of a dodgy decision in their first fight. Your correct the second fight was a stoppage ,ninth round I believe .

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      • Rodtang
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        #23
        Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

        Loooooooool

        What the **** this makes no ****ing sense. So Fury gets dropped and he isn't concussed and AJ gets dropped and is????

        Why would you post something so ****ing ******? If you get dropped multiple times you're chinny. I mean seriously I get making excuses for your faves but this just takes the cake
        I don't think so mate. Not every knockdown is a concussion. And if you think that then your ****** lol. Does the term flash knockdown mean anything to you? Is that a concussion? Lol. Keep trying but do better or I might think your concussed.

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          #24
          Originally posted by REDEEMER

          Who’s better on Joyce’s resume out of curiosity ?
          Bryant Jennings. I'm not sure Dubois is better than Takam personally. If so then just marginally. Given his youth and physical attributes he probably should be a lot better, but in my opinion he's limited. Dubois is knocking over stiffs. Nothing to write home about.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Griever0730

            Fan of boxing here, not Fury. But I agree to an extent. Fury was dropped by a much smaller Cunningham and was hurt pretty bad earlier in his career by some lesser dude so I understand what you saying. Everybody gets hurt when Wilder hits them with the right so I don't count him. But Fury's defensive skills for his size are top-notch and with how slow Joyce is, it would be hard to see Joyce land a big shot on him. Joshua on the other hand doesn't have the same length, size or mobility that Fury has so I see Joyce with a much better chance at getting a W with Joshua than Fury. Regardless, I feel both guys beat Joyce anyway. Hope I cleared that up.
            I don't agree with your comment on not counting Wilder as their still knockdowns. Pretty much everyone gets hurt if AJ hits them, so if he puts Fury down does that not count? Cunningham was not only smaller but lacked power at cruiserweight. I also feel that his defensive skills are not as great as people make out as he gets caught with flush right hands ( overhand for the little guys lol ) in most fights. What I will say about Fury is his recovery mentality and, will not be beaten attitude, is second to none. How he rose from the dead from the 2nd Wilder knockdown is beyond me lol. It's this that worries me the most for AJ because Fury is gonna need nailed to the canvas. I agree with Hatton that Joe will be a handful for these guys and I feel he's underrated. But yeah I see both AJ and Fury winning. You make some good points, cheers.

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              #26
              Originally posted by 1Eriugenus
              **** EM: Since this robot beat a guy who couldn’t slip a simple jab, he has suddenly become the one of the most overrated boxers out there.

              I don't like JJ's jab but it is odd. He doesn't really snap it from the shoulder like you should. He kinda extends his upper arm then straightens it. On the negative side, that reduces the power, but JJ is so naturally strong that his jab still seems to hurt. On the positive side, throwing his jab in a sort of delayed process seemed to mean that DDD couldn't read it & was getting hit with it all night.

              Pump the brakes - Joyce can’t beat anyone in the top-5 (he beats Wilder tho). They’ll light him up like a Christmas tree.

              I'm not totally sure who the top 5 would be at H/w. I agree JJ doesn't beat Fury. He would be an outsider v A.J but if A.J has stamina issues, & I think he does, JJ is the man to find those out. I definitely think JJ is 50/50 v Usyk & also v Dillian. I think he beats Ruiz who's lack of discipline & stamina will catch up with him. Same for Ortiz plus advancing age waits for no man. I don't know if JJ could beat Wilder because there are so many imponderables, it depends on which Deontay shows up. I would see JJ v Wallinn as 50/50 also.
              He has a far better chance of beating Fury than AJ, Whyte, Usyk and Ruiz. And he'll spark Wilder with ease.

              The only chance Fury has in beating him is to fight on the backfoot and use his jab. If he decides to fight Joyce the way he fought Wilder in the rematch - he's in for a long night. Joyce is naturally stronger than Fury at any weight (so it negates the bully tactic) and Fury swings his right wide.

              He can't stand in front of AJ based on how slow he's unless he wants his head smashed in with hooks, big right and uppercut. AJ will also take his slow jab away with well timed overhand punches and no boxer has ever outjabed AJ apart from arguably Wlad.

              Joyce's jab is too slow and Whyte's best punch is his left hook. So how is he going to defend the left hooks hitting him every time he throws his jab?

              Usyk will box circles around him. Too slow and too flatfooted.

              And he doesn't want Ruiz's fast hands since both have slow feet and majority of the fight is going to be in the pocket.

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