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  • dan_cov
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    A new boxing term;

    Now let me explain

    The term ''goat'' greatest of all-time is used way too much.

    Goat should mean exactly what it stands for, the greatest of ALL-TIME!
    All time, the sport in its entirity.

    From now on we need to start addressing fighters a, past timers as the goht.
    Greatest of his time! or greatest of his era.
    I know, goht and gohe don't sound good but it is what it is.

    Its like this you have these fighters in the 1900s or whatever before the sweet science was really a thing. It wasn't until the around the start of the first world war and I am sure there are a few exceptions that true great technical boxers came around I'm talking SRR, Willie Pep. In fact it wasn't until almost then that any of them could box a lick.

    A lot of these early pioneers are just that pioneers, greatest of their time - perhaps seeing footage is often limited.
    It was more like Greco wrestling than boxing.
    Clinching, rabbit punching non-stop.
    I have a theory that people don't enjoy watching it because the quality is bad as they say its just ****ing unbearable too sit through. Its about the equivalent of watching Holly Holm pinning her opponent against the cage, restraining her and leaning on her for 25mins or Jorge Masvidal being held against the cage against Usman and having his toes stamped on.

    The term goat is silly enough because that should belong to whoever the best HW ever was or is. Like Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano being called the goat is ridiculous to me how can they be the goat when there are so many that would have blatantly drilled a hole in their heads. They would been CWs today, an Evander Holyfield would of smoked them let alone a Lennox Lewis or Tyson Fury or some giant lump. Like actually believe a 180lb Joe Louis would beat them, its crazy.

    If we're talking otherwise then maybe its more the P4P goat or something you need to claim and to me that is probably Roy Jones Jr.

    I think there are fighters in the 40s, 50s that are handful through history but if you think for one minute someone like Jack Johnson or Sam Langford is even remotely competitive in any era post 40s. Like seriously they would be journeymen.
  • dan_cov
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    #2
    Basically if you are talking being the #goat then you are probably looking at Tyson Fury, Lennox Lewis someone like that.
    P4p goat or whatever the hell you want to name it someone like RJJ maybe
    Otherwise these are just the best of their respective eras.

    Like a lot of these guys like Sam Langford or whatever like lets be real he has a 300 losses back then and he'd have far less success today or in the 70s or whatever.


    How can you call them the goat when there has been a thousand guys since who would spark them senseless in 30 seconds?

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    • dan_cov
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      #3
      Sugar Ray = legend. Fantastic fighter even by todays standards but my man was losing and getting pushed to the brink by like Jake Lamotta a good 10 or more times.

      Imagine a Floyd Mayweather lost to someone like that and kept rematching him and going life and death.

      Sorry but that is almost like Floyd fighting and being in highly competitive fights and losing to John Murray or something

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