Why did LARA Create his own 155 Weight Division?

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  • Thuglife Nelo
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    #21
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    You seem mad that Floyd has power. Get over it.
    I never created IV gate. But we might as well revisit it since you purple slurpers want to instigate the politics behind the scenes. Fine. We can do all that again! Let new boxing fans read and comprehend the inconsistencies with PEDS.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

      I never created IV gate. But we might as well revisit it since you purple slurpers want to instigate the politics behind the scenes. Fine. We can do all that again! Let new boxing fans read and comprehend the inconsistencies with PEDS.
      There is no IV gate. Doesn’t make Canelo’s cw any less a problem than anyone else’s.

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        There is no IV gate. Doesn’t make Canelo’s cw any less a problem than anyone else’s.
        IV Gate was bigger. It’s actually surreal that many Pinoy fans were smarter than LDBC purple slurpers in questioning Floyd’s “severe dehydration” the night before PAC.

        that only exists for boxers who are cutting 15lbs+ in rehydration. Be it Zurdo Ramírez, Hurd, JCC Jr., Callum Smith, Benavidez, those guys would add 20lbs of water the following day. That’s severe dehydration yet they still performed and you want to believe that Floyd who is the “master Welter” who is “the same” on fight night form 147 was severely dehydrated? I’m telling you Rap music makes a generation dumber. That’s why ACT’s or SAT’a aren’t priorities and it’s better to slang rocks and watch boxing just to root for the same type of skin color. Seems elementary and rudimentary innit? Im glad I enjoy all boxers of different colors and different generations. The LDBC purple slurpers can’t stand that the P4P #1 is white skinned. Who cares! Lol. Boxing will move on.

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          #24
          I like how all of the Lara fights listed in the OP are 12 round title fights. That is some fine detective work.

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            #25
            Originally posted by chaosisme
            I like how all of the Lara fights listed in the OP are 12 round title fights. That is some fine detective work.
            I like how Canelo vs Lara wasn’t a title fight… nor was Angulo… nor was Kirkland.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

              IV Gate was bigger. It’s actually surreal that many Pinoy fans were smarter than LDBC purple slurpers in questioning Floyd’s “severe dehydration” the night before PAC.

              that only exists for boxers who are cutting 15lbs+ in rehydration. Be it Zurdo Ramírez, Hurd, JCC Jr., Callum Smith, Benavidez, those guys would add 20lbs of water the following day. That’s severe dehydration yet they still performed and you want to believe that Floyd who is the “master Welter” who is “the same” on fight night form 147 was severely dehydrated? I’m telling you Rap music makes a generation dumber. That’s why ACT’s or SAT’a aren’t priorities and it’s better to slang rocks and watch boxing just to root for the same type of skin color. Seems elementary and rudimentary innit? Im glad I enjoy all boxers of different colors and different generations. The LDBC purple slurpers can’t stand that the P4P #1 is white skinned. Who cares! Lol. Boxing will move on.
              There is no IV gate. Exaggeration based on the comments of Manny fans doesn’t make it true.

              Now you’re an expert on dehydration. Sure.

              More racial stuff, anti black stereotypes and bringing up Floyd because Canelo gets the same criticism for his CW that any other boxer gets.
              Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-09-2021, 06:10 PM.

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                #27
                Nobody cares about non title fights. Especially for meaningless 4-6 round fights that are just to build a resume.

                It is an issue for big fights, title fights, fights that mean something.

                The context also matters. Were those fights at 155lbs Lara using his “star power” to get his way with weights?

                When Canelo did it, it was Canelo using his A-side leverage to get an advantage. Except vs Cotto, that appeared to be a mutual agreement.

                With that said, I don’t think it was much of an advantage, and I don’t care for it. Canelo vs Cotto at 155lbs made sense. Cotto was too small, as he came in at 155lbs vs Martinez in their 159lb catchweight fight.

                Canelo vs Lara at 155lbs was also pointless and did not offer any advantage, given that Lara had always been a 154lb fighter. So he was not draining himself. In fact that extra pound should have made him come in more comfortable.

                Neither Canelo or Kirkland needed the full agreed upon 155lb catchweight as both came in 154 and a half.

                Alfredo Angulo did not use the full 155lb catchweight either, as he came in at 154 1/2.

                Canelo vs Khan at 155lbs, obviously that gave Canelo an advantage whether it would have been at 154-160. Khan just isn’t a Jr MW or MW. He can’t even take punches well at 135-147, let alone above 147lbs.

                When it came down to Canelo actually fighting Middleweights, all fights happened at 160. GGG 2x, Jacobs. When it came down to fighting a LHW, the fight happened at 175lbs. Vs 168lbers, there was no issues there, no draining. Callum Smith, BJS, those fights happened at 168lbs.

                The 155lb catchweight was blown way out proportion by Canelo critics. Just like the 152lb catchweight for Mayweather vs Canelo was blown out of proportion. Canelo weighting 154 or 155 or 160 that night vs Mayweather would not have mattered, PED’s or not. Canelo just did not have the skills to win. And his power did not matter as he could not even catch Mayweather clean.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  There is no IV gate. Exaggeration based on the comments of Manny fans doesn’t make it true.

                  Now you’re an expert on dehydration. Sure.

                  More racial stuff, anti black stereotypes and bringing up Floyd because Canelo gets the same criticism for his CW that any other boxer gets.
                  Again. LDBC Haymonites continue to fall back on “dehydration” when “severe dehydration” was TMT’s defense ffs. Lol

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    Nobody cares about non title fights. Especially for meaningless 4-6 round fights that are just to build a resume.

                    It is an issue for big fights, title fights, fights that mean something.

                    The context also matters. Were those fights at 155lbs Lara using his “star power” to get his way with weights?

                    When Canelo did it, it was Canelo using his A-side leverage to get an advantage. Except vs Cotto, that appeared to be a mutual agreement.

                    With that said, I don’t think it was much of an advantage, and I don’t care for it. Canelo vs Cotto at 155lbs made sense. Cotto was too small, as he came in at 155lbs vs Martinez in their 159lb catchweight fight.

                    Canelo vs Lara at 155lbs was also pointless and did not offer any advantage, given that Lara had always been a 154lb fighter. So he was not draining himself. In fact that extra pound should have made him come in more comfortable.

                    Neither Canelo or Kirkland needed the full agreed upon 155lb catchweight as both came in 154 and a half.

                    Alfredo Angulo did not use the full 155lb catchweight either, as he came in at 154 1/2.

                    Canelo vs Khan at 155lbs, obviously that gave Canelo an advantage whether it would have been at 154-160. Khan just isn’t a Jr MW or MW. He can’t even take punches well at 135-147, let alone above 147lbs.

                    When it came down to Canelo actually fighting Middleweights, all fights happened at 160. GGG 2x, Jacobs. When it came down to fighting a LHW, the fight happened at 175lbs. Vs 168lbers, there was no issues there, no draining. Callum Smith, BJS, those fights happened at 168lbs.

                    The 155lb catchweight was blown way out proportion by Canelo critics. Just like the 152lb catchweight for Mayweather vs Canelo was blown out of proportion. Canelo weighting 154 or 155 or 160 that night vs Mayweather would not have mattered, PED’s or not. Canelo just did not have the skills to win. And his power did not matter as he could not even catch Mayweather clean.
                    Canelo looked really bad with the Liam Smith weigh in. Not as bad as the Floyd weigh in, but it was bad. Even against Khan, Canelo could only cut weight because of his youth at the time. I do agree with some of what you say. They says Canelo was a weight bully, but even Al Bernstein wanted to specifically address that Josesito Lopez wasnt that much different rehydrated against Canelo. Meaning it wasn’t Munguía vs Sadam Ali size disparity. Munguía vs Ali was like Callum Smith vs Canelo. Difference is that Canelo is no longer draining whereas Callum Smith does for 168. That’s why Canelo, with his skills, could manage.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                      So Cotto stipulated 155 for a title, not Canelo. Canelo DEFENDED a title giving a catch to Khan. Did you want Canelo to defend at the full 160 for Khan like GGG for Brook? Why didn’t Bhop just stay firm at 160 for Oscar?
                      Are you saying that ginger, gave khan a catch weight out of the goodness of his heart? We all know why he fought him. Actually, he made a career fighting undersize opponents, and bringing fighters down with his own clauses. Be safe.

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