Comments Thread For: Charles Martin Lashes Out at Dillian Whyte: He Knew What Was Coming For Him

[PBR Streetgang]

Why is it that when people want to argue that Ortiz is so much worse... in such a powerhouse division like exists today (being very very sarcastic), they mention fighters like Martin as an example of one of those powerhouse fighters.... And I also remember when Whyte was Called the p i s s (did I use that expression properly SidKnee?). Now Ortiz Is the P i s s... Yet when someone proclaims that pretty much this division is historically weak, very very weak... all these fighters taking the p i s s are suddenly elevated! So... Whyte is now decent, and Ortiz is not...but Ortiz is weaker than Martin?

Ortiz, Martin, Whyte, Povatkin, Parker, etc. All lost to top dogs and none of them stand out. Ruiz is an exception. The guys coming up, the prospects may change things around, God be willing.

I know you and I have (respectfully) jousted over Ortiz in the past. I think the issue over King Kong is the narrative that he's some avoided and dangerous fighter, which I think is humorous. Ortiz is a decent fighter but his resume is pretty weak for the reputation some annoint him with.

I've never heard a narrative implying Whyte or Martin were avoided fighters...in fact, I've heard more that they are "bums", a phrase I hate and a label I think is incredibly inaccurate. Whyte is a flawed fighter but he is game to fight anyone and his resume shows that (even if some of his wins should have an asterisk mark). Martin gets slagged for some of his wacky comments and getting blasted out by AJ but he is better than his performance that night, in my opinion at least.

I don't think this is some golden age in HW boxing but we often look back on previous eras with nostalgia. Its incredibly difficult to compare eras because circumstances were different.

[billeau2]

I know you and I have (respectfully) jousted over Ortiz in the past. I think the issue over King Kong is the narrative that he's some avoided and dangerous fighter, which I think is humorous. Ortiz is a decent fighter but his resume is pretty weak for the reputation some annoint him with.

I've never heard a narrative implying Whyte or Martin were avoided fighters...in fact, I've heard more that they are "bums", a phrase I hate and a label I think is incredibly inaccurate. Whyte is a flawed fighter but he is game to fight anyone and his resume shows that (even if some of his wins should have an asterisk mark). Martin gets slagged for some of his wacky comments and getting blasted out by AJ but he is better than his performance that night, in my opinion at least.

I don't think this is some golden age in HW boxing but we often look back on previous eras with nostalgia. Its incredibly difficult to compare eras because circumstances were different.

I never trust those narratives. I do think some things, patterns come to light. There is a tendency for many Cuban fighters who become pros later in life, to coast, and to neglect training, fall victim to living high off the hog... There could well be a desire in Ortiz to fight for the title again, or close to it. I agree that would be unrealistic.

Martin has been good about taking fights and trying to improve... he was after all, a late starter. Whyte also came into the sport from another and did fight well... I always have defended Whyte for this.

I think there are factors that make this a weak time. The covid situation, the lack of fighting among the upcommers, and the fact that the main contenders are just not so great. But I would agree that we can never Make a totally accurate judgement on this issue. There has to be a period of history that flows and gives a unique perspective to the times. Circumstances are not a fault "thing" but they do have effects. Covid preventing so many fights is a shame, but it has caused problems because we need guys to fight to determine who will progress and who will not.

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He asked Eddie for an easy fight after the Povetkin fight...What fight could be easier? You guys will say anything to defend those fighters you like. You are ridiculous. We have AJ with jet lag, which is according to you why he lost to Ruiz, and Whyte who needs an easy touch after defeating a fighter who could hardly make it to the ring. Did I call you a halfwit? Im sorry you are a one quarter wit.

Nothing against Whyte... who is a guy with decent skills, he does not need you to make excuses for him lol.

Why are you talking to me ,unless you can figure out the difference between Ortiz and the other top 10 or even 15 guys keep it moving Mr NO wit . You are in a very small group that classes Ortiz with the rest of the heavyweights who have far better resumes ,it’s a special group you are in Silly and Ortiz possibly has the worst resume for a 2 time title contender in last 30 years and you claim he’s like the rest ?

[sicko]

Just fight the guy! Funny how guys like to pretend like everybody is ducking them but when people step up the challenge they Tuck Tail, this is happening a lot in boxing. Rolly did the same thing with Haney, Charlo did it 3 Times now with Benavidez...

Why NOT Martin vs Whyte on Canelo Undercard LETS DO IT!

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Just fight the guy! Funny how guys like to pretend like everybody is ducking them but when people step up the challenge they Tuck Tail, this is happening a lot in boxing. Rolly did the same thing with Haney, Charlo did it 3 Times now with Benavidez...

Why NOT Martin vs Whyte on Canelo Undercard LETS DO IT!

Whyte has fought AJ former wins before so it’s also not a good look on Whyte facing another one and back to back AJ wins though ,I’d agree with Whyte here .

“Because he’s embarrassed himself, it’s difficult to build a case to fight him, because if you defeat him in three or four rounds, people would say, ‘Well, Joshua beat him in two rounds.'” ‘The same manner if I defeated him in a round.’ ‘Well, he never recovered from Joshua’s thrashing.’

I think it’s a more then winnable fight fir Whyte but what does he get out of it is true .

[JakeTheBoxer]

This could’ve won Whyte some respect if he took this fight whether in the US or UK.

I mean what? Whyte must gain a respect by fighting....Martin????

[Raggamuffin]

I mean what? Whyte must gain a respect

Yeah. Martin has called his bum ass out for some time now and he’s ignored him……fighting in his bum of the career show. He was on his way up after the Parker fight only to lose his ****en respect against Povetkin with one hook. So yeah, get some respect by beating the so-called bum in Martin-IN AMERICA!

[PunchyPotorff]

A solid contender for worst boxer to ever hold the world belt is once again talking a better fight than he’s capable of delivering. Whyte would absolutely rag doll him, not because Whyte is amazing because Martin is trash.

You must've not watched Martin's fight with Washington and some others lately. He keeps improving. And maybe you missed Whyte vs Rivas where he was dropped and nearly stopped, or him getting stopped by Povetkin, and getting a gift via a weakened Povetkin in the 2nd fight. Granted, neither fighter is top notch, but Whyte would definitely have major problems with Martin.

[Jax teller]

You must've not watched Martin's fight with Washington and some others lately. He keeps improving. And maybe you missed Whyte vs Rivas where he was dropped and nearly stopped, or him getting stopped by Povetkin, and getting a gift via a weakened Povetkin in the 2nd fight. Granted, neither fighter is top notch, but Whyte would definitely have major problems with Martin.

Really? Are pretending Washington is in the same ball park or maybe even better than Rivas and Povetkin now?

Not to forget Whyte was battering Pov in the first fight, Povetkin showed his class in that 1 moment to get the beautifully set up KO.

Martins been used to slate AJ's resume for years, now he's talking about Whyte he's top tier. This site is a joke.

[diarraisagod]

Martin's a bum and irrelevant.

That said, easy money too. Kind of seems like the perfect fight, Whyte's been wanting an easier fight or two and got an opponent who's willing to sell it. If I was Whyte I'd take that fight.