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  • I have no ears
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    #51
    Originally posted by Toffee

    He won the title against Bernane Stiverne. Prior to that he showed his 'boxing' skills against cab drivers.

    He didn't forget to box. He abandoned it as it was a huge weakness. His power was his strength, so he honed in on that as the standard of opponent improved (relatively).

    Fury is a huge step up in level. The idea that he'll just improve and go back to boxing his opponent is laughable.

    He's got elite power. It's the only thing that gives him a chance.

    If it happens.
    He has very little boxing acumen, but to be fair to him, he used to have a very accomplished jab, just look at the second stiverne fight, as short as it was, he showed a tremendously well polished and powerful jab in that 1 round demolition

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    • Ray*
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      #52
      You are not going to change the mentality of a guy who says " He has to be perfect for 12 rounds, I only have to be perfect for 12 seconds".... his ego is easily hurt, to win they would have to walk him through this fight, telling him to stick to the gamelan, because once he gets hit he would resort back to looking to land that one big right hand.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #53
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv

        Wow.

        Fury has done everything other than hide under the bed to avoid fighting Deontay Wilder. Where have you been for the last year and a half?

        First he tried to claim the contract was expired. Failed.

        Then he and Joshua tried to freeze Wilder out and fight each other. Failed.

        Last month, two weeks before his beating, he claimed to be part of a massive outbreak. Then it was only two people. Then both people were fine after a couple days. All to give Fury three more months of training.

        But I thought it was easy? Why the games and the delays? Because Fury knows the second he steps into that ring with Deontay Wilder, he's in a whole heap of trouble. Clocks ticking. Either Fury takes his beating like a man, or retires.

        Then it's on to Wilder-Joshua. No mandatories, just undisputed like everybody wanted. But this time, Wilder will be the new undisputed king. Hope Joshua is ready to sign on the dotted line and doesn't hide behind a flat fee...

        50/50, 60/40 rematch (provided Joshua wants the rematch after he gets Breazeale'd).
        Fury kept pushing Wilder and his side to make the rematch. They weren't forthcoming. They were hoping for Fury to go in another direction and have something close to being signed before coming out to his weirdo fans and claiming he was being ducked. Then Fury and AJ tried to make the fight that actually mattered in the division. But just as it looked like being signed and sealed, Fury is ordered to fight Wilder again. But here's the thing. Wilder and his side actually thought Fury, Arum, AJ and Hearn would pay him a huge sum of money to keep the undisputed fight on track. Wilder can then pretend he isn't a coward. However, it backfired because Fury told him to f3ck himself and refused to pay the coward a penny. Even Finkle was surprised they didn't offer up step aside. It was what they were planning. So Wilder now has to fight a fight he wants nothing to do with. The headphones is just one of the many weak signs Wilder is showing. Fury lives more than in his head. Fury invaded his entire being and now owns him outright.

        Arum was the one who thought the contract was dead. He is an ex lawyer after all. But it shows why that ****roach can't be trusted.

        You think making the fight the world wants to see is "Freezing somebody out"?? No it isn't. Actually coming out and saying as such like Wilder did towards AJ and refusing to fight him is freezing somebody out. No one wants the Wilder fight other than the few freaks that Wilder has as fans. Why do you think the ticket sales bombed horribly? They want to wait until Brits can fly over like last time to buy the tickets because Wilder has no fans who will actually support him by being there live.

        Tell me what happened in either fight that would have Fury worried? Only delusions would have you come to this conclusion. The one who made the most degrading excuses is the one who is worried. The constant ducker of the top Heavies his whole pathetic career for heaps of money is the one who is worried. Even a 50% version of Fury beat and schooled a prime Wilder on home turf. Fury back to his best dominated Wilder in the rematch. It was a mismatch.

        The only one to take a beating in reality, is Wilder. Only in your fantasies does Fury take one.

        There will be no Joshua fight. Like in the past where he's ducked every opportunity to do so even with a stinking amount of money on the table.

        Real boxing fans wanted the undisputed fight for years. Wilder and his fans however did everything to make sure it didn't happen. We're not going through that freak show again with you sub-humans. Those games and days are over. You will not latch yourself onto a real champion like a leech to build your name like the coward did whilst fighting f3cking garbage and looking like shlt doing so. You may think it was time well spent on that creepy shlt, but normal people didn't. No thank you. It's just a sport, not life or death. Anyone that warped needs putting down.

        AJ has always been ready, unlike that coward Wilder. Every offer and contract refused.

        DAZN deals with flat fees you idiot. It's a subscription platform.

        Wilder is going to destroy a fighter like AJ even though he can't do it against complete bums fight after fight? AJ ****s that freak brutally. Not love tapping the bum to death like Fury did. No, just pure violence and destruction. A proper KO where Wilder twitches. Wilder knows it too, which is why he's absolutely terrified.

        As i say, you may now get back to your delusions. Your "King" is waiting. Haha.

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        • medic5678
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          #54
          Malik is having a masturbatory fantasy. Looking at his dirty movies with a pig (his wife) tells me his standards are extremely low. He'll be scraping Wilder off the ring floor in 5 rounds. Leave him in there? Wilder will get his ****** ass hurt.

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          • JULESLUPOWITZ
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            #55
            What would annoy us true Boxing fans? An upset by Wilder. It’d be some ****** issue or poor judging. NO, DON’T SELL US INNOCENT FANS ANY MORE OF THIS MISMATCHED JOURNEYMAN (Wilder) trying to get by our true champ! Pls let us move on to TF vs AJ!

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            • davefromvancouv
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              #56
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Fury kept pushing Wilder and his side to make the rematch. They weren't forthcoming. They were hoping for Fury to go in another direction and have something close to being signed before coming out to his weirdo fans and claiming he was being ducked. Then Fury and AJ tried to make the fight that actually mattered in the division. But just as it looked like being signed and sealed, Fury is ordered to fight Wilder again. But here's the thing. Wilder and his side actually thought Fury, Arum, AJ and Hearn would pay him a huge sum of money to keep the undisputed fight on track. Wilder can then pretend he isn't a coward. However, it backfired because Fury told him to f3ck himself and refused to pay the coward a penny. Even Finkle was surprised they didn't offer up step aside. It was what they were planning. So Wilder now has to fight a fight he wants nothing to do with. The headphones is just one of the many weak signs Wilder is showing. Fury lives more than in his head. Fury invaded his entire being and now owns him outright.
              Forthcoming? Wilder exercised the rematch clause immediately. Then everything was shut down. Arum and ESPN wanted a live gate so a July date became an October date. Then December. Then February. All Arum and ESPN. Wilder had nothing with the postponements.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Arum was the one who thought the contract was dead. He is an ex lawyer after all. But it shows why that ****roach can't be trusted.
              No. Arum and Fury were upset with Wilder for exposing credible evidence of glove tampering. So they wanted out of the contract, even though Arum and ESPN were the ones who postponed the fight out to February.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              You think making the fight the world wants to see is "Freezing somebody out"?? No it isn't. Actually coming out and saying as such like Wilder did towards AJ and refusing to fight him is freezing somebody out. No one wants the Wilder fight other than the few freaks that Wilder has as fans. Why do you think the ticket sales bombed horribly? They want to wait until Brits can fly over like last time to buy the tickets because Wilder has no fans who will actually support him by being there live.
              Like Klitschko, Wilder was contractually obligated to a Fury rematch and deserved a chance to retain his title. Fury has yet to honor a rematch clause after he's won a title.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Tell me what happened in either fight that would have Fury worried? Only delusions would have you come to this conclusion. The one who made the most degrading excuses is the one who is worried. The constant ducker of the top Heavies his whole pathetic career for heaps of money is the one who is worried. Even a 50% version of Fury beat and schooled a prime Wilder on home turf. Fury back to his best dominated Wilder in the rematch. It was a mismatch.
              Fury was lucky the first fight wasn't called off after he was knocked flat to the canvas. He won't be able to do what he did in the second fight, so he was hoping he could get out of the trilogy. He was wrong.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              The only one to take a beating in reality, is Wilder. Only in your fantasies does Fury take one.
              Wilder hurt Fury more than Fury hurt him and
              credible evidence suggests Fury cheated in both fights. He won't be able to get away with it in the trilogy.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              There will be no Joshua fight. Like in the past where he's ducked every opportunity to do so even with a stinking amount of money on the table.

              Real boxing fans wanted the undisputed fight for years. Wilder and his fans however did everything to make sure it didn't happen. We're not going through that freak show again with you sub-humans. Those games and days are over. You will not latch yourself onto a real champion like a leech to build your name like the coward did whilst fighting f3cking garbage and looking like shlt doing so. You may think it was time well spent on that creepy shlt, but normal people didn't. No thank you. It's just a sport, not life or death. Anyone that warped needs putting down.
              Joshua wasn't ready in 2018. Ruiz changed his outlook on things. Provided he gets past Usyk, undisputed with Wilder is next. Fury is going to get absolutely destroyed by Wilder in the trilogy fight.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              AJ has always been ready, unlike that coward Wilder. Every offer and contract refused.
              Joshua refused $50 million against 50% because he wasn't ready. After a failed attempt at undisputed, when most of the boxing world pretended that Fury wasn't contractually obligated to rematch Wilder, the very same $50 million against 50% offer will be on the table after Wilder knocks Fury out (or Fury retires again)

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              DAZN deals with flat fees you idiot. It's a subscription platform.
              Whatever Joshua gets, Wilder gets. That's how 50/50 works.

              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              Wilder is going to destroy a fighter like AJ even though he can't do it against complete bums fight after fight? AJ ****s that freak brutally. Not love tapping the bum to death like Fury did. No, just pure violence and destruction. A proper KO where Wilder twitches. Wilder knows it too, which is why he's absolutely terrified.

              As i say, you may now get back to your delusions. Your "King" is waiting. Haha.
              Wilder is going to beat Joshua easier than he's going to beat Fury. Fury is a relaxed unorthodox fighter. Joshua is technical and predictable. After getting flattened by Wilder, Joshua will have a better understanding of how to make it more competitive in the rematch...

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