Comments Thread For: If He Chooses To Retire, Manny Pacquiao Can Walk Away With Dignity

[BendOver]

Pac can retire as without question best of era. Leaves blueprint for future stars to follow for route to greatness and being put on pedestal.

His excuses are part of the blueprint?

[The Big Dunn]

So why exactly is floyd better than pac in the ATG list?

I think he gets voted ahead of him because they both have great resumes against similar competition. Floyd has the 2 best wins (Manny and Canelo) even though manny had fought more fights.

Both have a FOTD award, both are multiple FOTY winners. Manny has titles in 8 divisions while Floyd has titles in 5. Both have several wins over HOFers.

The difference is likely record and record in title fights. Manny’s record is outstanding as is his record in title fights.

Floyd’s is perfect. Given they have similar comp, this is likely the difference.

[The Big Dunn]

Ha you said nobody would have Manny ahead of Floyd and I just pulled up one legit list and can pull up more.

If the list you had was from a legit source, you would’ve posted the link. You didn’t.

which suggests it’s from the WBN or some bogus site.

Maybe I’m wrong.

[GrandpaBernard]

manny doesn’t want to walk off with dignity

manny said it himself and admitted the easiest opponent of his career just beat him

[spytactics]

I think he gets voted ahead of him because they both have great resumes against similar competition. Floyd has the 2 best wins (Manny and Canelo) even though manny had fought more fights.

Both have a FOTD award, both are multiple FOTY winners. Manny has titles in 8 divisions while Floyd has titles in 5. Both have several wins over HOFers.

The difference is likely record and record in title fights. Manny’s record is outstanding as is his record in title fights.

Floyd’s is perfect. Given they have similar comp, this is likely the difference.

A drained Canelo and a 5 years late and questionable win(should have been a draw) over Manny are Floyd’s best wins? Floyd ruined any talk for legacy during his 2nd half of his career.
His bout with McGregor shouldn’t count. McGregor isn’t and never was a boxer. Manny signed to fight Spence in his last fight and took on a young, hungry, bigger fighter in Ugas with two weeks notice. Mayweather fought a pu55ycat in Berto.
As for undefeated, it has been done before. Calzaghe, etc have had undefeated careers. 8 division champion has never happened and is a super incredible feat…one which the record may not be broken for a very long time.

[The Big Dunn]

A drained Canelo and a 5 years late and questionable win(should have been a draw) over Manny are Floyd’s best wins? Floyd ruined any talk for legacy during his 2nd half of his career.
His bout with McGregor shouldn’t count. McGregor isn’t and never was a boxer. Manny signed to fight Spence in his last fight and took on a young, hungry, bigger fighter in Ugas with two weeks notice. Mayweather fought a pu55ycat in Berto.
As for undefeated, it has been done before. Calzaghe, etc have had undefeated careers. 8 division champion has never happened and is a super incredible feat…one which the record may not be broken for a very long time.

That is just you desperately trying to minimize those wins because they’re better than any win Manny had.

So what? Floyd was at the end of his career and had earned the right to fight who he wished. The Conor fight Manny tried to make before Conor got ktfo so stop with that BS. Floyd being better is why he got to make that Conor event.

calzaghe has no where near the resume or quality wins as Floyd has.

I already cited that but that feat doesn’t erase the losses. Floyd won titles in 5 divisions, doing it without a loss. Has anyone ever done that?

[spytactics]

That is just you desperately trying to minimize those wins because they’re better than any win Manny had.

So what? Floyd was at the end of his career and had earned the right to fight who he wished. The Conor fight Manny tried to make before Conor got ktfo so stop with that BS. Floyd being better is why he got to make that Conor event.

calzaghe has no where near the resume or quality wins as Floyd has.

I already cited that but that feat doesn’t erase the losses. Floyd won titles in 5 divisions, doing it without a loss. Has anyone ever done that?

Rocky Marciano, Andre Ward, and a few others are undefeated. Pacquiao didn’t fight McGregor so you can’t use that as an arguing point. That is not an excuse for floyd to use him as a legitimate contender for his record. Undefeated is nothing new. 8 titles in different weight classes is unheard of.
As per Calzaghe, he has wins over Roy Jones AND BHop. Those two fighters are better than 95% of Mayweather’s list of opponents.

[djtmal]

If the list you had was from a legit source, you would’ve posted the link. You didn’t.

which suggests it’s from the WBN or some bogus site.

Maybe I’m wrong.

Its suggests you are wrong that's right

[hugh grant]

A drained Canelo and a 5 years late and questionable win(should have been a draw) over Manny are Floyd’s best wins? Floyd ruined any talk for legacy during his 2nd half of his career.
His bout with McGregor shouldn’t count. McGregor isn’t and never was a boxer. Manny signed to fight Spence in his last fight and took on a young, hungry, bigger fighter in Ugas with two weeks notice. Mayweather fought a pu55ycat in Berto.
As for undefeated, it has been done before. Calzaghe, etc have had undefeated careers. 8 division champion has never happened and is a super incredible feat…one which the record may not be broken for a very long time.

Floyd fans make rules up as they go along. They inventing a game with rules where floyd can't lose.?
In floydboy world Floyd's wins over Nell and pac are so amazing even though it was a hometown win with no rematc h, and was I V enhanced and with CW the full works. Yet floydboy s go one further and say there is nothing pac and Nel o can do for remainder of career to equal those amazing wins?
If Pac beating nelo, ggg and Tyson fury won't get pac above floyd, you'd think floyd giving a rematch to even the score wouldn't be asking too much as in floydboy world it seems the only route available to equal floyd? Floydboy s reply floyd don't need to rematch easybeats even after all I've said above? They'll say pac didn't rematch hatton or cotto?
But pac isn't saying things like there is nothing hatton or cotton can do to equal that win is he?

[djtmal]

So what? Floyd was at the end of his career and had earned the right to fight who he wished.

Not if he wanted to be seen as one of the best ever.

Floyd had been took his foot off the gas had been in cherrypick mode since Hatton