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  • djtmal
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn

    You didn’t answer my question. people like you, clearly can’t separate their opinion from the facts.

    You’re not a true judge. You’re a fan of one and not the other.
    Here is a list I pulled up I can provide the link:

    10. Roy Jones Jr.
    09. Henry Armstrong
    08. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    07. Sugar Ray Leonard
    06. Joe Louis
    05. Rocky Marciano
    04. Manny Pacquiao
    03. Mike Tyson
    02. Sugar Ray Robinson
    01. Muhammad Ali

    Done in 2020

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #72
      Originally posted by hugh grant

      Anyone deluded enough to make claims Pac s no2 pfp of this era would need to explain how they come to that conclusion when he's a 8 division champ with proof, unequivocal hard evidence.
      Any replies that aren't satisfactory will be treated as being anti social and trolling, you'd know about that it's your territory.
      Pac s not only pfp the best of era because of his range, but also has the better resume and strength in depth of resume and light and shade.
      The evidence is he’s in the same era of a 5 division champ, 25-0 in title fights, who beat him decisively.
      That is why he is ranked ahead of Manny on all the lists.

      now a slurper like you would discount that evidence solely because you can’t manipulate it to your advantage.

      He doesn’t have a better resume. Manny and canelo are better than anyone on Manny’s resume, which we agree is impressive. This is another factor why Floyd is ranked higher.

      manny has losses to bums including torrecampo and horn. How is that not light?

      come on man .

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      • hugh grant
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        #73
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        The evidence is he’s in the same era of a 5 division champ, 25-0 in title fights, who beat him decisively.
        That is why he is ranked ahead of Manny on all the lists.

        now a slurper like you would discount that evidence solely because you can’t manipulate it to your advantage.

        He doesn’t have a better resume. Manny and canelo are better than anyone on Manny’s resume, which we agree is impressive. This is another factor why Floyd is ranked higher.

        manny has losses to bums including torrecampo and horn. How is that not light?

        come on man .
        Your trolling still. Pac has much stronger resume. Floyd s smoke and mirrors living off wins over nel o and Pac where he didn't give a rematch he owed as he had home advantage. If Floyd lost rematchFloyd wouldn't have a case for even being mentioned in same breath as Pac and even nel o now
        Last edited by hugh grant; 08-24-2021, 02:10 PM.

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          #74
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          Your trolling still. Pac has much stronger resume. Floyd s smoke and mirrors living off wins over nel o and Pac where he didn't give a rematch he owed as he had home advantage. If Floyd lost rematchFloyd wouldn't have a case for even being mentioned in same breath as Pac and even nel o now
          Why would anyone rematch a blowout win? Does manny need to rematch the guys he beat by wide UD?

          I get it- losses only count for everyone but manny. That is why he is #2- losses count for everyone, not just the guys you don’t like.

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          • hugh grant
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            #75
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            Why would anyone rematch a blowout win? Does manny need to rematch the guys he beat by wide UD?

            I get it- losses only count for everyone but manny. That is why he is #2- losses count for everyone, not just the guys you don’t like.
            Let me hold your hand in explaining it to you. I know everyone else understands but for your benefit I'll baby talk to you.

            If nel o and Pac knew before they signed to fight floyd, that if they lost to floyd, nothing they did after loss to floyd could make up for loss to floyd, whether it's win titles in 10 divisions, fighting until 40s winning titles nothing would matter as Floyd has that win over you, do you think nel o would have signed his soul away to the devil? Do you think nel o would agree to CW? Don't you think Pac would at the very, very least have fight with floyd on neutral ground with at least one Filipino judge of his choice?I

            What I'm getting at is Floyd's win over nel o and Pac don't count for as much as you do desperately want it to because of the reasons above. Your so desperate you've lost all sense of reasoning. You need to come back down to earth and quickly for everyone's benefit
            Last edited by hugh grant; 08-24-2021, 04:44 PM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Pacquiao always says "I fight for my people," so I say, give them one more AT HOME! Give them another "Thriller in Manila!" I'm sure he could get Amir Khan, David Avanseyan, or Conor Benn, to come to the PI, for a farewell fight with "The Legend!"
              David Avaneseyan will beat him. he will probably get a split decision against Khan. To be fair all fights are dangerous for him now especially when his calves can't be trusted

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                #77
                Originally posted by djtmal

                Here is a list I pulled up I can provide the link:

                10. Roy Jones Jr.
                09. Henry Armstrong
                08. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                07. Sugar Ray Leonard
                06. Joe Louis
                05. Rocky Marciano
                04. Manny Pacquiao
                03. Mike Tyson
                02. Sugar Ray Robinson
                01. Muhammad Ali

                Done in 2020
                SO!..... I can show you a list that is very different and definitely doesn't have Tyson at number 3.In any case what point are you trying to make exactly?

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by hugh grant

                  Let me hold your hand in explaining it to you. I know everyone else understands but for your benefit I'll baby talk to you.

                  If nel o and Pac knew before they signed to fight floyd, that if they lost to floyd, nothing they did after loss to floyd could make up for loss to floyd, whether it's win titles in 10 divisions, fighting until 40s winning titles nothing would matter as Floyd has that win over you, do you think nel o would have signed his soul away to the devil? Do you think nel o would agree to CW? Don't you think Pac would at the very, very least have fight with floyd on neutral ground with at least one Filipino judge of his choice?I

                  What I'm getting at is Floyd's win over nel o and Pac don't count for as much as you do desperately want it to because of the reasons above. Your so desperate you've lost all sense of reasoning. You need to come back down to earth and quickly for everyone's benefit
                  Stop the garbage. Manny didn’t lose because of the judges.

                  A Filipino judge wouldn’t give Manny any more rounds against Floyd than an American judge would.

                  so cotto and Margs wins don’t count for Manny if a cw doesn’t count. So that’s 1 less title for Manny and one of his best wins gone.

                  The only people that don’t count Floyd’s win over Manny are his cum swallowers. You guys just can’t get over the loss.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by djtmal

                    Here is a list I pulled up I can provide the link:

                    10. Roy Jones Jr.
                    09. Henry Armstrong
                    08. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                    07. Sugar Ray Leonard
                    06. Joe Louis
                    05. Rocky Marciano
                    04. Manny Pacquiao
                    03. Mike Tyson
                    02. Sugar Ray Robinson
                    01. Muhammad Ali

                    Done in 2020


                    Real or Not: Manny Pacquiao's career was better than Floyd Mayweather's

                    Coppinger: Not real. Had Pacquiao fought Spence as planned and come out on top, I probably have vaulted him ahead of Mayweather. That victory would've been an incredible achievement at 42, and in this sport, longevity matters. Their career accomplishments are tough to separate -- both had long runs at the top of the pound-for-pound list, often switching places after their fights.

                    So it comes down to their 2015 clash, which shattered revenue records. Mayweather won that fight going away, outboxing Pacquiao for long stretches. The only drama came in Round 4, when Pacquiao appeared to stun Mayweather. And now that Pacquiao is likely to retire after the loss to Ugas, it's a wrap on the debate: Mayweather had the better career.

                    These are not just the two greatest fighters of their generation, but two of the top 10 or 15 boxers to ever lace up the gloves. There's no shame in being second to Mayweather, even if there are many who believe Pacquiao would have come out on top if they had fought five years earlier. We'll never know.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Stop the garbage. Manny didn’t lose because of the judges.

                      A Filipino judge wouldn’t give Manny any more rounds against Floyd than an American judge would.

                      so cotto and Margs wins don’t count for Manny if a cw doesn’t count. So that’s 1 less title for Manny and one of his best wins gone.

                      The only people that don’t count Floyd’s win over Manny are his cum swallowers. You guys just can’t get over the loss.
                      Your a nutcase. Your analogies and comparisons are always off.
                      Its not that Pacs win over cott o don't count it's just that cotto isn't winning titles in 10 divisions and beating Antony joshua, and if cott o was we wouldn't say cott o can never be better than Pac as Pac has that cw win over cotto..Pac s win obviously wouldn't count that much.
                      But as it goes that's a non starter as a debate as cott o hasn't done anything to make him comparable all time to pac. And to add further to that as it goes most think Pac beats cotto at 147 anyway. Pac has done enough these last 10 years to convince people of that. Wake up man and smell coffee.
                      Nobody thinks if Floyd fought Pac like he did, in the Philippines he'd get decision. Floyd pulled wool over everyone's eyes we all thought there'd be a rematch, as did Pac and Floyd himself. But after win he got greedy about being able to boast a win over pac. Floyd wasn't confident he'd beat pac in that 1at fight so took money and ran.
                      Get over it, Floyd s win over nel o and Pac don't count for much
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 08-24-2021, 06:40 PM.

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