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  • BangEM
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    #91
    Originally posted by rocky_balboa23

    Cry me a river mr. Youtuber. He embarrased the sport with that shtty performance.
    A fight he dominated and would’ve been a shut out at age 45 despite going for a KO and the size disadvantage?

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      #92
      Originally posted by lfc19titles

      Since manny fighting better boxers as that’s how resumes are decided. It’s universally accepted to most in boxing manny has a better resume

      Floyd for sure is the better boxer but picked his foes wisely and avoiding some at their best to keep that 0 safe which is also universally accepted by most. Margarito, Mosley, Pac-Man, Williams and more across his career Floyd either avoided or chose to wait until fighters declined. Pac-Man on the other hand has wins earlier on his career that Floyd cannot match, full stop.

      I understand as a Floyd fan, this must sound insane to you lol so it’s all good bro
      True or false? Floyd had Margarito and Cotto fights lined up with Top Rank before Arum wouldn't give Floyd his desired guarantee for De la Hoya, leading to Floyd buying out his contract?

      True or false? Mosley could have fought Floyd in 2005 or 2006, but was saying something about getting a tooth fixed?

      True or false? Many Pacquiao, with a $50 million dollar gurantee, 50/50 purse split, agreed to, refused to sign the contract because he didn't want to be subjected to random blood testing 21 days out from the fight?

      You could argue Paul Williams, I guess, but what big welterweight fights did Paul get? Did Manny fight him?

      Floyd's resume is deeper than Manny's. He fought better versions of Mosley, Hatton, De la Hoya and you could argue Cotto. Dominated Marquez and fought a host of other champions from 130-154, including Canelo.
      Last edited by Gary Coleman; 08-22-2021, 05:02 PM.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Gary Coleman

        True or false? Floyd had Margarito and Cotto fights lined up with Top Rank before Arum wouldn't give Floyd his desired guarantee for De la Hoya, leading to Floyd buying out his contract?

        True or false? Mosley could have fought Floyd in 2005 or 2006, but was saying something about getting a tooth fixed?

        True or false? Many Pacquiao, with a $50 million dollar gurantee, 50/50 purse split, agreed to, refused to sign the contract because he didn't want to be subjected to random blood testing 21 days out from the fight?

        You could argue Paul Williams, I guess, but what big welterweight fights did Paul get? Did Manny fight him?

        Floyd's resume is deeper than Manny's. He fought better versions of Mosley, Hatton, De la Hoya and you could argue Cotto. Dominated Marquez and fought a host of other champions from 130-154, including Canelo.
        Going off memory, nothing was signed only the 10 mil guarantee for marg. floyd didnt want none.

        Shanes tooth excuse is actually funny

        Both Manny and Floyd failed in the first negotiations.

        How come noone brings up the mighty Baldomir! Lol

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          #94
          Originally posted by BangEM

          Lost 2 fights to who?
          I'll give u one and let the other for homework:

          Castillo.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Gary Coleman

            True or false? Floyd had Margarito and Cotto fights lined up with Top Rank before Arum wouldn't give Floyd his desired guarantee for De la Hoya, leading to Floyd buying out his contract?

            True or false? Mosley could have fought Floyd in 2005 or 2006, but was saying something about getting a tooth fixed?

            True or false? Many Pacquiao, with a $50 million dollar gurantee, 50/50 purse split, agreed to, refused to sign the contract because he didn't want to be subjected to random blood testing 21 days out from the fight?

            You could argue Paul Williams, I guess, but what big welterweight fights did Paul get? Did Manny fight him?

            Floyd's resume is deeper than Manny's. He fought better versions of Mosley, Hatton, De la Hoya and you could argue Cotto. Dominated Marquez and fought a host of other champions from 130-154, including Canelo.
            True or false, Mayweather said he retired coz of health issue when WW was heating up?

            True or false, Both Mayweather and Pacquiao f up the negotiation in the 1st bout dont make excuses for your bf.

            Floyd's resume is not deeper. Mosley, Delahoya, and Cotto were shot to pieces when he fought them.
            Hatton was his best win but it was in the 147 division.

            Pac's resume is outstanding with Barrera, Morales, JMM. Those are 3 mexican legends who dominated the featherweight division.

            Add to the fact that he won 5 lineal and 8 division titles.

            Then you have icing in the cake with Thurman, Cotto, Hatton (in his division).

            Pac has a legendary/all time great career while Floyd has an great career.
            Last edited by rocky_balboa23; 08-22-2021, 11:43 PM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by eco1

              I'll give u one and let the other for homework:

              Castillo.
              Laughable.

              That’s not even close to robbery compared to Manny vs JMM or Canelo vs Lara/Trout.

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                #97
                How could Pac have a better résumé if Floyd has Pac on his résumé?? Pac fans never let a little thing like the truth change their narrative.

                So if the truth can’t help, then sentiment will be the next best thing.

                There isn’t a single win on Pacs record that Floyd wouldn’t walk away with the win against. Period.

                No he didn’t lose to Maidana, Cotto, Oscar, Conor, Pacquiao or Castillo. He beat all of them. Goodness these people are insane.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by clmags12

                  I tend to agree with you here. Thank god for ****m!
                  I wouldnt have wanted floyd to fight anyone with loaded gloves, even as much as I dislike him. I know Cotto felt the effects of them.

                  But in hindsight, Floyd feared Marg. Videos and interviews proved it.


                  LMAO Son why hinge on the achievements of a cheater? He called out Antonio Margarito and they turned the fight down didn’t they?

                  He asked Bob Arum, and Arum told espn himself that he wasn’t willing to make that fight or the Cotto fight. Let it go.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Bravado



                    LMAO Son why hinge on the achievements of a cheater? He called out Antonio Margarito and they turned the fight down didn’t they?

                    He asked Bob Arum, and Arum told espn himself that he wasn’t willing to make that fight or the Cotto fight. Let it go.

                    Mayweather's equivalent of Pac's featherweight run (JMM, Morales, Barrera) was supposed to be prime Cotto, Plaster Marga, Williams, Mosley, Maravilla.

                    If only he fought them in during the period when WW was too hot. Instead he invited 140 king Hatton which was Mayweather best wins.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by clmags12

                      Going off memory, nothing was signed only the 10 mil guarantee for marg. floyd didnt want none.

                      Shanes tooth excuse is actually funny

                      Both Manny and Floyd failed in the first negotiations.

                      How come noone brings up the mighty Baldomir! Lol
                      It was an $8 mill gurantee for Margarito and only $10 million gurantee that Arum wanted to pay for Oscar.

                      Where did Floyd fail in the original negotiations? Everything in the fight was agreed to aside from the blood testing. They originally offered Manny a 7 day cutoff and ended up dropping it all the way to 21 days - 3 weeks - before the fight. He still wouldn't sign.

                      Believe it or not, Baldomir was lineal champ at the time and Floyd was paid a few dollars higher for that fight than he would have gotten for Margarito.

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