Comments Thread For: Promoter: If Ali Can Beat The Best at That Size - So Can Usyk!

[StussyyyBrownnn]

I dont understand the logic here. Usyk is no Ali by any stretch of the imagination and the big heavyweights back then weren't huge in comparison. I personally dont see how anybody thinks Usyk can beat the bigger better heavyweights. I'm not sold on him just yet.

Holyfield was an undisputed champ at heavyweight despite coming up from cruiserweight. So it has been done before, just gotta see if Usyck got it as well.

[Rapscallion]

****** comment. during Ali's time the heavyweights were much smaller. it's not comparable.

Ali fought Ernie Terrell who was 6'6" and had an 82 inch reach same as Anthony Joshua, and Chuck Wepner who was 6'5". Buster Mathis weighed 256 for his fight with Ali. As you said, "****** comment." Only it was you who made the ****** comment.

[NachoMan]

Let’s all hope that in this fight AJ doesn’t go to the extreme of the fighting style he used in Ruiz 2. That style is incredibly not fan friendly. It is effective, but we had to live through one Wlad and we don’t want another.

I'm no fan of the way AJ fought in the Ruiz rematch, but that in no way resembled how Wlad fought. I 100% agree with you on the #nomoreklitschkos though.

[NachoMan]

Ali fought Ernie Terrell who was 6'6" and had an 82 inch reach same as Anthony Joshua, and Chuck Wepner who was 6'5". Buster Mathis weighed 256 for his fight with Ali. As you said, "****** comment." Only it was you who made the ****** comment.

I'll give you Ernie Terrell. Chuck Wepner was tall and sch-itty. He won about 60% of his fights. Buster Mathis was 256lbs because he was fat.

[NachoMan]

Holyfield was an undisputed champ at heavyweight despite coming up from cruiserweight. So it has been done before, just gotta see if Usyck got it as well.

I'm probably biased because Evander is perhaps my fave fighter of all time, but I just do not see many fighting similarities between him and Usyk. Evander was a blood and guts warrior apart from being an excellent technician. Usyk, for all his talent, pokes and pops his ways to victory. I actually cannot stand to watch the guy fight and cannot imagine him beating an elite HW. We'll see though.

[Greenfield02]

Did this guy seriously compare Usyk to Ali? Usyk is solid no doubt, but he's no Ali. People like to make a thing about height, it's not height, it's girth, body mass, is what matters. Tyson was 5"10, but was a big boned dude, even at 5"10 he's a bigger stronger guy than Usyk, it's not about the height, it's how big your bones are. All that said, Usyk is talented enough to beat Joshua, even if he's undersized, for the simple fact that Joshua is not all that and a bag of chips like some people like to make out to be. All that said, I can definitely see Usyk giving A.J a boxing lesson only to be caught by a lucky punch by a bigger guy.

[NachoMan]

I actually wanna se Fury - Usyk, the battle of the most skilled heavyweights.

Somewhat sadistic of you. That is a straight beat down of Usyk. I sort of look at Usyk as a Chris Byrd kind of HW, but I don't think he'll even have that much success at HW - unless the division titles get split up again and he gets title shots against 2nd-tier HWs.

[The plunger man]

Ali was comparable to every other heavyweight in his division and era....6.3 and 220lb....foreman weighed a tad more ,
Frazier was smaller , Liston was shorter , Norton , bonavena , Terrell was similar in size and weight and unlike usyk Ali grew in weight as he got older and was a heavyweight from day 1....usyk has bitten off much more than he thinks and I can see Joshua being really vicious and nasty in there and usyk will take a beating....Joshua is calmly waiting

[NEETzschean]

I'll give you Ernie Terrell. Chuck Wepner was tall and sch-itty. He won about 60% of his fights. Buster Mathis was 256lbs because he was fat.

Ernie Terrell was a 6'6 beanpole, 30 lbs lighter than AJ and made his debut at the same weight as many modern rehydrated light heavies. None of these guys were close to AJ's class either; look at how many losses they had, who they lost to and who they beat.

Both Krassyuk and nostalgic boxing fans are wrong: Ali was a huge heavyweight back in his day in terms of overall height, reach and weight, Usyk is small despite being slightly bigger than Ali because heavyweights as a whole have got so much bigger. However, Ali is nowhere near as good as so many boxing fans like to think because sports improve over time and boxing in no exception. Even in his day he had a lot of help from the officials and could have easily had 10 career losses rather than 5.

AJ has to be the favourite because he has the size, power, youth and home advantages but Usyk has pretty much everything else. It's an intriguing fight to be sure, especially as AJ has shown so many vulnerabilities.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Let’s all hope that in this fight AJ doesn’t go to the extreme of the fighting style he used in Ruiz 2. That style is incredibly not fan friendly. It is effective, but we had to live through one Wlad and we don’t want another.

Wlad was a great champ, but Joshua will have to fight very aggressive if he wants to do something against Fury. he won`t have any success with the style he showed in Ruiz rematch.