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  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    That is because he is trying to grow his business. Other promoters don’t seem to want their fighters to fight and have the fight viewed only on an app that a lot of people don’t have.

    Cant you understand that?

    You’re giving Hearn credit for media ploys.

    He knows these offers are getting rejected . He has in house fights to make other than these offers and will not do it. The only reason I can see why is because his roster isn’t deep enough.

    No we don’t see those offers from haymon because he a trying to beat the competition, not help them.
    But Eddie is willing to have the fight on THEIR platform. Not on the DAZN app. But this is too much of a problem too?

    Haymon is trying to beat the competition by crippling boxing and making shlte fights no one is interested in? He's not interested in other promoters having their fighters go on HIS platform even? So you see who the problem is then? They're willing to do this for the good of the sport. Haymon is the only one causing all these problems. He's a cancer that needs to be gone.

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    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

      Al haymon didn’t create the environment, HBO did. Then they fired Haymon and wouldn’t use his fighters. So he found a way to succeed without everyone else.

      Because he didn’t create the environment were in, he just utilized it to his advantage. You guys wanted him off hbo. You got it. You guys didn’t want his fighters to get those premium dates. You got it.

      Now you guys want something else.

      He isn’t crippling the sport. The networks are with exclusive deal and exclusive promoter partnerships.

      haymon is trying to finds new deal now. Maybe he inks with DAZN and Hearn. Who knows.

      Its not his fault that Eddie can’t succeed. It’s not his job to help Eddie promote his product. That’s eddies job and he needs to find a way to do better.
      People wanted Haymon off HBO because he was doing what he's doing now. Putting garbage on no one wanted.

      You can't even bring yourself to blame Haymon can you for what he's doing? It's "HBO's fault" now. No, it's Haymon's fault. HBO aren't even around any more and haven't been for years. Haymon is the only one to blame for creating this environment. He's the only one who is at fault for continuing this environment. It's no one but him.
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      • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

        Golovkin has Murata set up. Hearn can't force him to change his plans.

        The Charlo/Andrade fight is something fans are interested in. Eddie is willing to have it on either platform. What's the hold up? Haymon and his cowards. That's what.

        But you see what i mean when i say you always try to deflect blame away from PBC. The Charlo/Andrade fight has been called for and spoken about a lot more than Andrade fighting an old Golovkin. Let him do what he wants at this point of his career. Charlo and Andrade are at least still in their prime and need this fight more than Golovkin does.
        Ggg and Andrade have been champions on DAZN for years. No reason that fight hasn’t been made other than Hearn is giving ggg garbage so he doesn’t lose. He loses and there is no reason for canelo to fight him. There goes a huge payday.

        See you know this but will blame haymon. Please answer- if Hearn will not risk ggg losing, how is haymon any worse for doing same with his MW?

        That is completely untrue. Hearn had used the media to being up charlo/ Andrade only to deflect from his failure to make the in house fight.

        If you want the best to fight the best then make the in house MW unification . It’s that simple.
        Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-17-2021, 06:55 PM.

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        • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

          Ggg and Andrade have been champions on DAZN for years. No reason that fight hasn’t been made other than Hearn is giving ggg garbage so he doesn’t lose. He loses and there is no reason for canelo to fight him. There goes a huge payday.

          See you know this but will blame haymon. Please answer- if Hearn will not risk ggg losing, how is haymon any worse for doing same with his MW?

          That is completely untrue. Hearn had used the media to being up charlo/ Andrade only to deflect from his failure to make the in house fight.
          I'm not blaming Haymon for the Golovkin fight with Andrade not happening. But i am blaming Haymon and Charlo for ducking the Andrade fight.

          At which point do you think the Golovkin/Andrade fight should have happened?

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

            But Eddie is willing to have the fight on THEIR platform. Not on the DAZN app. But this is too much of a problem too?

            Haymon is trying to beat the competition by crippling boxing and making shlte fights no one is interested in? He's not interested in other promoters having their fighters go on HIS platform even? So you see who the problem is then? They're willing to do this for the good of the sport. Haymon is the only one causing all these problems. He's a cancer that needs to be gone.
            Again, Hearn needs that because he failed to secure opponents for his guys.

            Hearn is willing to go anywhere because he is on the bottom. That isn’t anyone’s problem but hearn’s.

            Sorry but it isn’t anyone’s responsibility to help Hearn grow his business. I don’t see how you don’t get that.
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            • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

              I'm not blaming Haymon for the Golovkin fight with Andrade not happening. But i am blaming Haymon and Charlo for ducking the Andrade fight.

              At which point do you think the Golovkin/Andrade fight should have happened?
              Charlo didn’t duck anything. It was a bs offer designed to sway the media and gullible fans.

              There is no need to go to the media about charlo when you have a lucrative, in house mw fight. The only reason he hadn’t done it is to save GGG for canelo.

              You know this but rather than admit it you want to point the finger at haymon.

              It could’ve happened any time over the last 2 years. Hearn marinates that and you blame haymon.

              come on.
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              • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Again, Hearn needs that because he failed to secure opponents for his guys.

                Hearn is willing to go anywhere because he is on the bottom. That isn’t anyone’s problem but hearn’s.

                Sorry but it isn’t anyone’s responsibility to help Hearn grow his business. I don’t see how you don’t get that.
                So You're supporting the fact these fights will never happen? Even if if Eddie allows his fighters to go on PBC? Because you see it as "Growing Eddie's business"? Wow.

                Funny thing is, you had a completely different tune to play when it came to the negotiations for AJ/Wilder.

                I'll let you get on with it then. Keep on supporting this madness. But we need to get rid of Haymon and the extremists otherwise this sport will be driven into the ground. Not even Don King was this bad. That's how much of a cancer Haymon is.

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                • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                  People wanted Haymon off HBO because he was doing what he's doing now. Putting garbage on no one wanted.

                  You can't even bring yourself to blame Haymon can you for what he's doing? It's "HBO's fault" now. No, it's Haymon's fault. HBO aren't even around any more and haven't been for years. Haymon is the only one to blame for creating this environment. He's the only one who is at fault for continuing this environment. It's no one but him.
                  Ok so you got what you wanted. Clearly you and they were wrong because SHO still shows his card today.

                  HBO then partnered with promoters and wouldn’t fight haymon boxers. So haymon said f-ck me and made is own way.

                  No it isn’t. This started when hbo fired haymon and then made an exclusive deal with TR after they chose not to re-sign Floyd. so haymon had no choice but to find a way to succeed. He did and when hbo went away TR decided ok let’s work together.

                  Be honest- would you work with TR after that?

                  Haymon isn’t the one with a LW that no one will fight is he?

                  If you think the solution is just blame haymon then go ahead. That won’t get you anywhere. Hearn needs to find a way to be successful on his own.
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                  • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                    Charlo didn’t duck anything. It was a bs offer designed to sway the media and gullible fans.

                    There is no need to go to the media about charlo when you have a lucrative, in house mw fight. The only reason he hadn’t done it is to save GGG for canelo.

                    You know this but rather than admit it you want to point the finger at haymon.

                    It could’ve happened any time over the last 2 years. Hearn marinates that and you blame haymon.

                    come on.
                    Charlo didn't duck Andrade because there's an in-house fight there for Andrade against Golovkin??? What???? Therefore, no one in history can be accused of ducking, because there are other fights they could be having?

                    Sorry, but this defence of Haymon has f3cked up your mind. Not only is Charlo a coward who ducked a perfectly good offer to fight Andrade, but the whole of the PBC is one big nest of chickens. They're b1tches. Frightened. Shook. Weak. Pathetic. Scared. Deluded. And there to be mocked and laughed at. They're a source of mockery.
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                    • Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                      Ok so you got what you wanted. Clearly you and they were wrong because SHO still shows his card today.

                      HBO then partnered with promoters and wouldn’t fight haymon boxers. So haymon said f-ck me and made is own way.

                      No it isn’t. This started when hbo fired haymon and then made an exclusive deal with TR after they chose not to re-sign Floyd. so haymon had no choice but to find a way to succeed. He did and when hbo went away TR decided ok let’s work together.

                      Be honest- would you work with TR after that?

                      Haymon isn’t the one with a LW that no one will fight is he?

                      If you think the solution is just blame haymon then go ahead. That won’t get you anywhere. Hearn needs to find a way to be successful on his own.
                      If you insist on Haymon being petty with Arum and TR due to the past, then do so. But what has that got to do with Hearn and Matchroom? Absolutely nothing.

                      I tried. I really did. Just like i have done so in the past. But i'll leave this now. It's just pointless.

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