Comments Thread For: Hearn: There's No Reason Why Ellerbe, Team Tank Shouldn't Reach Out To Fight Haney

[BoxingIsGreat]

Clearly shows how successful Hearn is in your minds eye. You just don't want him to run the show. It makes you insecure.

DAZN had nearly a million subscriptions in the US before the pandemic. I'd say that was DAZN making inroads. But you knew that already. Not like the shlte numbers PBC get constantly proving what a tragic car crash they are for the health of the sport.

I didn't even care about the Hearn takeover. I just want boxing to be run properly. I don't care who does it. But i want him to take over now knowing how much it makes the likes of your seethe with bitterness.

Hearn has NOTHING for Davis, not even Haney. He's begging in the media. How successful is that? When you are successful and top notch in your business, people come to you. Not vice versa. On your way.

[The Big Dunn]

Hearn only co promotes Golovkin. And i'm sure he's got a fight already planned with Murata.

Hearn however did make a big offer to another PBC coward in Charlo. But he refuses point blank to fight. Hearn has even offered Andrade to fight on their platform. But they never send any counter offers. So it isn't about platforms, it's about cowards not wanting to fight proper opposition. Like it always is. The platform excuse is just a road block. Knock the road block down, and another 3 are put up.

And on it goes.

Yeah but that fight is garbage. Make the Andrade unification already. That is the much better and preferred fight.

That is another example of winning the media. Instead of making the in house unification fight, you make an offer that you know will be turned down and then you run to the media like you’re surprised.

Then you want pbc to negotiate rather than Hearn just make an in-house unification that is simple and easy.

Come on Sid knee.

Hearn isn’t trying to knock down any roadblocks. He’s driving directly into it knowing it’s there because the warning signs are everywhere.

[Sid-Knee]

Being disingenuous doesn’t help. DAZN wants to increase subscriptions in America. Haymon isn’t going for help them do that.

Hearn is aware of this. Hearn understands the business environment of the sport. He also knows what TR and GBP are doing with their LW boxers. So yes it’s his fault if he can’t get Haney fights.

Yes, what he needs to do is use his boxers at or near LW- Burns, Farmer and Campbell- to give Haney fights to build his profile.

That should be a full calendar year. The we see where things are.

I literally posted Tank has no interest in Haney and is doing in house based on what Floyd said. That is the exact same criticism I said about gbp and TR.

The problem for you is pbc, TR, and gbp have marketable opponents for their guys. Hearn doesn’t for Haney.

That is the key to promoting in this era- get the top guys but also secure the best competition.

Hearn failed to do that for Haney. I don’t see how that isn’t his fault.

Eddie is willing to allow his fighters on their platform though? But they need to send offers for this to happen. Eddie can't pay his fighters out of Matchroom money for a fight on another platform. Haymon is the one who will have to put the money up. So, when is he going to get round to doing that? We never see any offers from Haymon to other fighters to fight on his platform. We see plenty from Eddie though.

[The Big Dunn]

Eddie is willing to allow his fighters on their platform though? But they need to send offers for this to happen. Eddie can't pay his fighters out of Matchroom money for a fight on another platform. Haymon is the one who will have to put the money up. So, when is he going to get round to doing that? We never see any offers from Haymon to other fighters to fight on his platform. We see plenty from Eddie though.

That is because he is trying to grow his business. Other promoters don’t seem to want their fighters to fight and have the fight viewed only on an app that a lot of people don’t have.

Cant you understand that?

You’re giving Hearn credit for media ploys.

He knows these offers are getting rejected . He has in house fights to make other than these offers and will not do it. The only reason I can see why is because his roster isn’t deep enough.

No we don’t see those offers from haymon because he a trying to beat the competition, not help them.

[Sid-Knee]

That is a ****** interpretation.

I don’t like the environment but I understand it is what it is. Just like I don’t like the flagrant foul rule in the nba, inter league play in baseball, or the protection of the QB and focus on offense in the nfl.

I simply try to find solutions within the parameters we’re faced with. Not constantly complain about the parameters when I can’t change them.

WTF? I didn’t blame everything on Hearn. Where the f-ck did you get that from? I talked about Haney only.

It’s not extremists Sid knee. It’s business competitors. Being honest about the parameters isn’t justifying it.

Hearn signed Haney but clearly he didn’t factor in the current climate. This is the same thing people are saying about TR and Crawford.

Its not some anti Hearn, anti British thing. Relax .

Maybe put the blame on the very person who is guilty for all this happening. Al Haymon?

If you're sticking to the platform story, then fair enough. But we're going to have to have Haymon make offers to the fighters for that to happen. We're not getting any of this. It's been going on for years. But i never see you direct any blame to Haymon.

The only positive is the numbers PBC are getting recently. They're atrocious. Hopefully Haymon is either forced to make the fights boxing demands, or he's forced to crawl back into his hole and to be never seen in boxing again. One can only hope because this sick joke has gone on far too long now. He's literally crippling the sport.

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe put the blame on the very person who is guilty for all this happening. Al Haymon?

If you're sticking to the platform story, then fair enough. But we're going to have to have Haymon make offers to the fighters for that to happen. We're not getting any of this. It's been going on for years. But i never see you direct any blame to Haymon.

The only positive is the numbers PBC are getting recently. They're atrocious. Hopefully Haymon is either forced to make the fights boxing demands, or he's forced to crawl back into his hole and to be never seen in boxing again. One can only hope because this sick joke has gone on far too long now. He's literally crippling the sport.

Al haymon didn’t create the environment, HBO did. Then they fired Haymon and wouldn’t use his fighters. So he found a way to succeed without everyone else.

Because he didn’t create the environment were in, he just utilized it to his advantage. You guys wanted him off hbo. You got it. You guys didn’t want his fighters to get those premium dates. You got it.

Now you guys want something else.

He isn’t crippling the sport. The networks are with exclusive deal and exclusive promoter partnerships.

haymon is trying to finds new deal now. Maybe he inks with DAZN and Hearn. Who knows.

Its not his fault that Eddie can’t succeed. It’s not his job to help Eddie promote his product. That’s eddies job and he needs to find a way to do better.

[Sid-Knee]

Hearn has NOTHING for Davis, not even Haney. He's begging in the media. How successful is that? When you are successful and top notch in your business, people come to you. Not vice versa. On your way.

In order to feel you're in the right and justified, you have to twist it to "Hearn is begging"? Haha. No, he's a promoter doing the job he should in trying to get the fights boxing needs. You don't want that though. You just want to defend the coward Davis.

When Eddie was trying his get his big A side a fight with that other coward in Wilder, it wasn't begging. It's called "Doing his ****ing job as a promoter". Real fighters don't care about all the other games you lot play to excuse mass cowardice. They just want to fight. Cowards don't.

Enjoy.

[BoxingIsGreat]

Al haymon didn’t create the environment, HBO did. Then they fired Haymon and wouldn’t use his fighters. So he found a way to succeed without everyone else.

Because he didn’t create the environment were in, he just utilized it to his advantage. You guys wanted him off hbo. You got it. You guys didn’t want his fighters to get those premium dates. You got it.

Now you guys want something else.

He isn’t crippling the sport. The networks are with exclusive deal and exclusive promoter partnerships.

haymon is trying to finds new deal now. Maybe he inks with DAZN and Hearn. Who knows.

Its not his fault that Eddie can’t succeed. It’s not his job to help Eddie promote his product. That’s eddies job and he needs to find a way to do better.

Amen to the bold. Eddie can't compete.

[BoxingIsGreat]

A lot of weeping here.

[Sid-Knee]

Yeah but that fight is garbage. Make the Andrade unification already. That is the much better and preferred fight.

That is another example of winning the media. Instead of making the in house unification fight, you make an offer that you know will be turned down and then you run to the media like you’re surprised.

Then you want pbc to negotiate rather than Hearn just make an in-house unification that is simple and easy.

Come on Sid knee.

Hearn isn’t trying to knock down any roadblocks. He’s driving directly into it knowing it’s there because the warning signs are everywhere.

Golovkin has Murata set up. Hearn can't force him to change his plans.

The Charlo/Andrade fight is something fans are interested in. Eddie is willing to have it on either platform. What's the hold up? Haymon and his cowards. That's what.

But you see what i mean when i say you always try to deflect blame away from PBC. The Charlo/Andrade fight has been called for and spoken about a lot more than Andrade fighting an old Golovkin. Let him do what he wants at this point of his career. Charlo and Andrade are at least still in their prime and need this fight more than Golovkin does.