Comments Thread For: Roach on Mayweather's 50-0 Run: Pacquiao Had Better Quality of Wins

[b Murphington]

Frazier beat Ali... but Frazier is almost never ranked higher than Ali. Pacman jumped 39lbs in weight and beat champions in every division, while Mayweather jumped 22lbs and beat champions in every division. Pac got him by 17lbs of weight .how is Mayweather ranked P4P higher as an ATG? Curious because the proof is in the pudding. Joe Smith Jr KOd Bhop. Is Joe Smith Jr a better fighter than Bhop? C'mon bruh.

Have you read my posts???? I rate Pacquiao higher than Floyd at this point. I however have the understanding that Floyd is just a better boxer and I believe that he would more than likely beat any version of Pacquiao. I think the best Floyd beats the best Pacquiao head to head. I said that Pacquiao is greater, but Floyd is more skilled. Is that hard to understand? Read my posts!!! Damn man!

[b Murphington]

Frazier beat Ali... but Frazier is almost never ranked higher than Ali. Pacman jumped 39lbs in weight and beat champions in every division, while Mayweather jumped 22lbs and beat champions in every division. Pac got him by 17lbs of weight .how is Mayweather ranked P4P higher as an ATG? Curious because the proof is in the pudding. Joe Smith Jr KOd Bhop. Is Joe Smith Jr a better fighter than Bhop? C'mon bruh.

Please understand the difference between BETTER and GREATER. Pacquiao is GREATER. Mayweather is BETTER.

[sargo]

Bigger, not necessarily better as Max Kellerman explained.

[djtmal]

If you picked Floyd to lose and he won you should give full credit because you were wrong.

JMM gets full credit because Manny fought him in a cherry pick gone wrong rather than man up and fight Floyd.

If you picked him to lose and he won it just means you picked wrong, doesn't take away the fact he fought a guy who is pushing 40 and past his prime. One has nothing to do with the other.

Floyd was scared of getting hit flush by Manny in 2009 by a punch he wouldn't see. He rather cherrypick slow, flat footed, come forward guys its a much lower risk.

Manny fighting Marquez, a 4th time, when he knows Marquez has his number, backs up the fact that he takes risks and isn't seeking low risk fights. That isn't a cherry pick he leaves that to Floyd vs Guerrero, Ortiz, Madonna, Berto, McGregor, and that Japanese Kickboxer

[hugh grant]

Please understand the difference between BETTER and GREATER. Pacquiao is GREATER. Mayweather is BETTER.

Pac s greater for sure, that's clear. But better is a bit uncertainty. Depends what criteria is for better. Better defense, better at hit and not be hit maybe? But Pac was definitely better than floyd at things. Better at stopping opponents, better at marking faces up, better at combination punches, better offensively

[The Big Dunn]

If you picked him to lose and he won it just means you picked wrong, doesn't take away the fact he fought a guy who is pushing 40 and past his prime. One has nothing to do with the other.

Floyd was scared of getting hit flush by Manny in 2009 by a punch he wouldn't see. He rather cherrypick slow, flat footed, come forward guys its a much lower risk.

Manny fighting Marquez, a 4th time, when he knows Marquez has his number, backs up the fact that he takes risks and isn't seeking low risk fights. That isn't a cherry pick he leaves that to Floyd vs Guerrero, Ortiz, Madonna, Berto, McGregor, and that Japanese Kickboxer

Yes you were wrong and when a mature adult is wrong they admit it and give full credit.

Yes it does matter. If you knew that going in and still picked against Floyd you can’t use it as an excuse after the fact.

You mean when Manny refused to fight over the ped testing request and had his team cite needle fear, even though he had tattoos? You post this despite Roach admitting publicly this was their team’s fault? Ok just shows what type of knob gobbling obsessive Stan you are.

That’s isn’t why he fought jmm a 4th time. you’re trying to put the best spin on that decision as possible.

Manny turned down a deal to fight Floyd. He fought jmm a 4th time for $12 million or so less than the Floyd fight would pay. This was after he said “ I have nothing to prove with jmm.”

Manny makes his choice, ends up getting knocked the F-CK out for ducking, choosing a lesser opponent and taking less. Lmfao.

[ruedboy]

Is that what you got from that?

It’s the fact that citing height means what? Corrales is taller than Mike Tyson. Celestine Cabellero is taller than Mike Tyson. It’s an irrelevant stat.

He outweighed him in the ring by 17 lbs. What more needs to be said on who the bigger man is?

In pro boxing height and reach are now irrelevant, OK
You keep saying 17 lbs without being able to verify it, so unless you have a some evidence its means nothing.
Just give a credible link.

[ruedboy]

It is well documented that Maidana weighed 165 lbs. If you want to deny it, it's on you. But you just look like a weirdo.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...503-story.html

How is that article well documented? The writer states the weight but where's any evidence for the statement. There's no attempt to give a source for the number.
Call me skeptical, but the article is a long way from well documented.

[Johnwoo8686]

Madonna was prime when Floyd beat him right.

Why Floyd don't brag about beating a prime Marcos Madonna.

He should be embarrassed he fought this slow, short armed come forward guy twice.

You're biased as hell if you're going to criticize Floyd for fighting Maidana and turn a round and give Manny a pass for fighting Brandon Rios and Jeff Horn. And Manny lost to Horn, a guy who had fewer than 20 fights.

[LeOoze]

How is that article well documented? The writer states the weight but where's any evidence for the statement. There's no attempt to give a source for the number.
Call me skeptical, but the article is a long way from well documented.

So you're saying Maidana didn't weigh 165, and boxing sites and others are just pulling that 165 lbs out of nowhere?

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/F...Marcos_Maidana
https://www.************.com/2014/07...robert-garcia/

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/boxing/money-floyd-dodges-upset-defeats-maidana-article-1.1778877

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/10879956/floyd-mayweather-jr-scores-majority-decision-marcos-maidana-welterweight-unification-fight

If you have a site or source that suggests that Maidana wasn't 165, please let me know